This happens to Stock cars also. More so Boosted cars. It comes down to "Crank Jerk" (I like to jerk my crank a lot thats one reason I did this mod :lol
hitting rev limiter, accelerating WOT on bumpy roads. It all stresses crankshaft. Did you read that link I posted for you??? :headbonk:
i stated that if you got boost with a conservative setup (like 600whp) and didnt rev it too high that its pretty much safe. others give the reference of "let us know when your engine blows". thats basically what im arguing against.Not to be a D here but you're arguing with yourself. No one is here saying youre wrong, we all agree, its a rarity, def over done as far as rumor mill goes. But I don't care, I am new to these cars, I love getting my hands dirty, and enjoy learning about the car. Cant think of a better way than tearing the front half of the motor off
do you have any empirical evidence to back this up?
Dude you need to stop arguing several people have given you sound advise, if you choose not to take it that's your choice. 600 rwhp is NOT conservative unless you have drag radials that car will blow the tires off at will and you WILL hit the limiter without even knowing it. There have been others that said you don't need the upgraded gears for a street car and they were saying the same things you are and guess what now they are singing a different tune with 6k out of pocket expense. Like I said before do it or not it's your car and your money let's get this topic back on track as this is going nowhere.:headbonk:
do you have any to refute it? figure if roush can sell them all day with warranty has to be reasonably safe
i have boost and i have warranty im fine. i can argue all i want... i didnt get topic off track he asked about the tune and people started on the OPG or die routine. i simply was trying to state its not a must but its good for peace of mind.
you dont understand how warranties work, then.
Maybe I missed it but I don't recall you stating that it's a good piece of mind, I do however recall you stating that the pole said you don't need them blah blah. Small word of advice if you do ever break your stock OPG don't mention it to anyone on here as you will get a big I TOLD YOU SO. And to touch on the ROUSH cars running and having warranty they are just taking a gamble based on a calculated risk as not everyone is going to drive that car to its full potential so if some fail that's a risk they are willing to take. How much did you pay for that warranty ? I bet it was enough to come close to covering the OPG install in the first place. Just on another note this OPG problem has been around since the S197 3 valve days then continued on through to the 2011 and up 5.0.
THIS is how warranties work.
why would i chance voiding my warranty to do this? i said before when i go to turn up the boost i will.
I want to touch on this briefly. Its certainly not as simple as "this is our kit, heres a warranty, some will blow up and thats cool". Our performance parts essentially are trickle down items from our production line (RS/RS1/RS2/RS3 etc) These kits are designed around the fact we will be offering a warranty, I know I've said it here before we dont go out looking to make the biggest numbers, we look to offer a quality kit with the option of a warranty and hope it never gets used. That is why you dont see "out of the box" setups from us that push the limits of the drivetrain it wouldnt make sense. If we did then it would not come with a warranty. We use a great head unit that absolutely has room to grow with some aftermarket support if thats your thing. Another biggie i always stress is to compare warranty coverage between brands. I havent compared in recent months but when everyone started offering kits and i was looking at their warranty coverage i was a bit shocked. I know what we spend to fix a car that would make a claim on a motor and in some cases it was more than other guys entire warranty coverage. So if the warranty is big to you make sure you actually look to see what dollar amount will be paid out max.
The fact that you bought the car used with 1700 miles on it should be even more of a reason to upgrade as I'm sure the previous owner didn't baby it.
I totally respect where you are coming from and no one was taking a shot at ROUSH, it's a good place to be in when purchasing a car with increased horsepower and still maintain full warranty. Some may be happy with 600 or less rwhp and choose to stay within the warranty limits however most people end up turning it up and that is where the issue with the oem OPG becomes more of a concern from a durability standpoint, I also think many people are mis led by this warranty as they turn it up and then when it blows up they expect it to be fixed for free under warranty and that is where the problems arise. The old saying you gotta pay to play certainly applies in that situation.:cheers:
