2015-2016 Tech Pack and Base GT350 Cooler Solution Discussion

[Steve68]

Has anyone broke down and bought the $2700 TR-3160 (track pack) with the internal pump from buyfordracingdpm.com?

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[Tomster]

Has anyone broke down and bought the $2700 TR-3160 (track pack) with the internal pump from buyfordracingdpm.com?

That's what I would do. ;) That is however if I was hell bent on not selling to put myself in a '17

 

[Steve68]

That's what I would do. ;) That is however if I was hell bent on not selling to put myself in a '17

I'm this ->||<- close to pulling the trigger. I talked to them a couple days ago and they confirmed the price, and that's delivered anywhere in the continental US. The future of my relationship with my current car is also up in the air due to pending litigation (not over limp mode...yet), so I'm holding off.

This is how I feel about Ford and its vehicles these days.

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[Tomster]

I'm this ->||<- close to pulling the trigger. I talked to them a couple days ago and they confirmed the price, and that's delivered anywhere in the continental US. The future of my relationship with my current car is also up in the air due to pending litigation (not over limp mode...yet), so I'm holding off.

This is how I feel about Ford and its vehicles these days.

Great, now we will have to change your callsign to DEVO STEVE

 

[VOODOO 6G]

Mark Mothersbaugh of Devo is related to my mother in law, her cousin. I know who cares. Lol

 

[Steve68]

Depending on the outcome of my litigation, in the not too distant future I shall be known as GrandSportSteve :ban:

 

[Tomster]

Depending on the outcome of my litigation, in the not too distant future I shall be known as GrandSportSteve :ban:

:lol:

No, just don't pull the (whateverhisnamewas) and sell your car to get a GT3 and disown the 350 community.....

What was his name again? :shrug:

Edited to add: the guy was "R gt350 donson" :thumbdown:

 

[superman07]

Depending on the outcome of my litigation, in the not too distant future I shall be known as GrandSportSteve :ban:

going to look at one this weekend. I might be right behind you.

 

[superman07]

That's getting old, fast.

Time for everyone to put their big boy pants on and own up as to why they didn't consider why a car marketed as a "track oriented" car would be offered with a Track Pack option. That's the very first thing that smacked me right between the eyes when the car was unveiled. Ford was pretty clear in showing the dichotomy between the two packages.

Engine oil, transmission and differential coolers for the "Track Day Specialist" (i.e. track car) vs. nicer interior for the "Smart, Sophisticated Performer" (i.e. street car). Hmmmmm... Maybe that track pack is important if you're actually going to track it? Astounding!

I know this post will antagonize people and I do apologize for any offense given. For the most part I actually sympathize with Tech Pack owners, esp. those who are overheating during daily driving. Absolutely unacceptable.

That said, pitching fits on the internet and repeatedly playing the victim card while complaining about the honest effort being made by Ford to remedy the situation does nothing for anyone.

And there are initial press releases that make generalized statements with clarifications few and far between, ALL SUGGESTING THE GT350 LINE as track oriented.

no point arguing, the base and tech are not performers, and frankly should not have bore the gt350 name then. Nor should they have had the same brakes, tires etc. The entire trim designation was for a track oriented car. the term all-day track performer was also used, it was not a stretch for non racing folks to consider the base and tech to at least out track a GT.

so we get every other possible aspect of track performance including gearing that is sub optimal for the street, rubber, breaks, front and side aero, supplements with settings for track setup, track suspension and cluster options, Shelby and gt350 monikers, but we should be happy with the ridiculously poor thermal performance even on the street in high ambient under load.

to suggest for a second any one of these cars should not be expected to do hot laps with a gt for 20 minutes is silly.

just call one gt350 poser edition, and poser edition with magnaride and leather.

 

[mattlqx]

That's getting old, fast.

You should perhaps read every page, from the very beginning and realize your points are just as tired, have been old for months before you bestowed your post on page 85 of this thread and should just stfu already, particularly if you have no skin in the game. Talk about around and around.

 

[Epiphany]

To single out owners as having no skin in the game really isn't fair. Hey, I'm pissed about the poor performing audio system, lack of seat cooling, and no RSD as original equipment. The Track Pack isn't without performance imperfection either. I'm knocking each "malady" off, one by one, and not without substantial cost. It is what it is.

That said, this resonates pretty deep...

...to suggest for a second any one of these cars should not be expected to do hot laps with a gt for 20 minutes is silly.

just call one gt350 poser edition, and poser edition with magnaride and leather.

I think we all agree. The decision to exclude trans/diff coolers from certain models was a mistake. Rectified in '17 but with little consolation to '15/'16 owners.

 

[lemers]

To single out owners as having no skin in the game really isn't fair. Hey, I'm pissed about the poor performing audio system, lack of seat cooling, and no RSD as original equipment. The Track Pack isn't without performance imperfection either. I'm knocking each "malady" off, one by one, and not without substantial cost. It is what it is.

That said, this resonates pretty deep...



I think we all agree. The decision to exclude trans/diff coolers from certain models was a mistake. Rectified in '17 but with little consolation to '15/'16 owners.

Nobody is saying that there are other problems with the car, but what they are saying is that this thread is called

2015-2016 Tech Pack and Base GT350 Cooler Solution Discussion

There are people who specically do not have a cooling issue, but continuously post that same piece of info as evidence.

By taking that stance they are saying that we should had known that limp mode was going to be an issue and that an unmodded Mustang GT could last longer on a track than the GT350.

This is a huge issue that Ford is choosing to basically ignore and its solution seems to be as half assed as the GT350 program was to start.

 

[xXANCHORMONXx]

Far from half assed, this is still a legendary car no matter what.

I feel your pain.

I was tracking a 15 ecoboost performance pack with the thought that it was ready to go. To make it last I had to add a larger radiator, massive intercooler, twin oil coolers, and I was having issues with an overheating diff which is why I sold it.

The ecoboost is the last car I'll ever buy with the intent of tracking that does not have the oil, trans and diff coolers to support it.

Honestly I don't think the trans cooling on this car is as big of a deal as the diff overheating.

Nobody is saying that there are other problems with the car, but what they are saying is that this thread is called

2015-2016 Tech Pack and Base GT350 Cooler Solution Discussion

There are people who specically do not have a cooling issue, but continuously post that same piece of info as evidence.

By taking that stance they are saying that we should had known that limp mode was going to be an issue and that an unmodded Mustang GT could last longer on a track than the GT350.

This is a huge issue that Ford is choosing to basically ignore and its solution seems to be as half assed as the GT350 program was to start.

 

[lemers]

Far from half assed, this is still a legendary car no matter what.

I feel your pain.

I was tracking a 15 ecoboost performance pack with the thought that it was ready to go. To make it last I had to add a larger radiator, massive intercooler, twin oil coolers, and I was having issues with an overheating diff which is why I sold it.

The ecoboost is the last car I'll ever buy with the intent of tracking that does not have the oil, trans and diff coolers to support it.

Honestly I don't think the trans cooling on this car is as big of a deal as the diff overheating.

Since the trans is what causes the "no fun mode" that is the first issue that needs to be addressed.

 

[superman07]

While I appreciate that many may think its reasonable, or that these solutions are acceptable, The warranty issue alone to me is a deal breaker. Ford has lost a previously ford household for life. Auto loan credit is cracking, recession is here for many sectors of the economy, auto sales are going down further. -1 raptor sale, -1 focus sale, -1 expedition lease for 2016. If they do not want to listen to me, that's fine. I don't have to continue buying their automobiles or supporting their dealers.

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