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Like to see dyno sheets before and after then track times. I like to see how Ford power packs do
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I'm confused by a common theme here. If you want the Stage 1 "for the tune", but are going to use a PMAS or Steeda or someone else's intake, you might as well just get a Lund Palm Beach Dyno or Livernois or some other local custom tune and more than likely achieve more power. This warranty is valid if it is installed by a ASE/dealer mechanic and only for the combination of the Stage 1 filter in the stock box + tune, not any other intake. That tune was not calibrated for any aftermarket intake, whether you think it'll make a difference or not it's grounds to deny warranty. Sure it's easy to switch out the intake, but... meanwhile you're spending $800 with a Stage 1 + someone's intake to increase risk, not reduce it.
 

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Like to see dyno sheets before and after then track times. I like to see how Ford power packs do
No kidding. Give me a g'dam dyno sheet for the Stage 1 at least and ideally the Stage 2 with the launch of the product, not "sometime after".
 

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I'm confused by a common theme here. If you want the Stage 1 "for the tune", but are going to use a PMAS or Steeda or someone else's intake, you might as well just get a Lund Palm Beach Dyno or Livernois or some other local custom tune and more than likely achieve more power. This warranty is valid if it is installed by a ASE/dealer mechanic and only for the combination of the Stage 1 filter in the stock box + tune, not any other intake. That tune was not calibrated for any aftermarket intake, whether you think it'll make a difference or not it's grounds to deny warranty. Sure it's easy to switch out the intake, but... meanwhile you're spending $800 with a Stage 1 + someone's intake to increase risk, not reduce it.
You'd have to go with the no tune required PMAS, which supposedly nets decent gains. I'm skeptical about any gains provided my CAI's (tuned or non tune) to begin with.

Optimally, I'd want to see a baseline dyno with overlay dyno results from stage1 tune. I'd also like to see datalogs. The ford racing tune I ran on my 2012 GT pinged like a MOFO.
 

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15GTBEN, how did you know you '12 was pinging? I do not hear or feel anything abnormal while driving or idle . The Procal will read error codes, would it show up here?
 

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I m also worried about the pinging. Instead of dyno, i would like to see a track result. One member running a procal tune on his 2014 mustang tp with 3.73 gears reported a shave of 0.3 seconds from the quarter mile and gained 2 mph at the finish line. He also reported that he couldnt feel a power boost in normal daily day driving except the increase in low end torque. I would like to hear some good results like that.
 

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For me the low end Torque has been a huge improvement. Well worth it IMHO.
 

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15GTBEN, how did you know you '12 was pinging? I do not hear or feel anything abnormal while driving or idle . The Procal will read error codes, would it show up here?
The was ping was clearly audible. Many others had the issue as well. The people at Ford Racing said it was normal and harmless... There were multiple thread on it. Mine pinged on the Y and N settings. Here are a couple:

http://themustangsource.com/forums/f800/ford-racing-pro-cal-tune-521686/

http://www.*******************/forums/showthread.php?865810-Procal-on-my-13/page2

http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/f358/t359870/


There were ping reports with track key as well:

http://trackmustangsonline.com/index.php?topic=10104.0
 

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I'd imagine and hope at this point they resolved the pinging issues from the s197 cars.
 

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The S197 track key cars were instructed to run oil separators in order to eliminate the pinging. I'm guessing any of the cars with the pinging on the Ford Racing/Ford Performance tunes would see that eliminated or greatly reduced by running an oil separator in conjunction. I could be wrong though.
 

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So, I ordered the PP1 from Levittown Ford. Anyone know of a reputable place in Northern New Jersey that will install?
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You'd have to go with the no tune required PMAS, which supposedly nets decent gains. I'm skeptical about any gains provided my CAI's (tuned or non tune) to begin with.

Optimally, I'd want to see a baseline dyno with overlay dyno results from stage1 tune. I'd also like to see datalogs. The ford racing tune I ran on my 2012 GT pinged like a MOFO.
Yes, I know the no-tune but still... $800 just to have someone else's intake instead of a tested Stage 2 Package. Not making sense to me.
 

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So, I ordered the PP1 from Levittown Ford. Anyone know of a reputable place in Northern New Jersey that will install?
Thank you.
When I traveled to Madison, NJ a lot for work, Tommy's Garage seemed to bea place to go.
 

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The S197 track key cars were instructed to run oil separators in order to eliminate the pinging. I'm guessing any of the cars with the pinging on the Ford Racing/Ford Performance tunes would see that eliminated or greatly reduced by running an oil separator in conjunction. I could be wrong though.
Have to run a catch can to prevent pinging on a factory performance tune = bullocks.
 

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Yes, as soon as I see dynos for all three packs, I'm ready to buy!
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