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How are they installing them when the kits are on back order
Lebanon probably has a bunch of them sitting around as they more than likely purchase them in bulk. The kits are listed as backorder because they are working on the phase 2 tune.
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IM new here so don't beat me up.I sold my Grand National a couple weeks ago.So I called Lebanon Ford and got the Grabber Blue 2017.Yes I also got the Roush phase 2.I still have faith that things will come together sooner or later.Time will tell.
 

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IM new here so don't beat me up.I sold my Grand National a couple weeks ago.So I called Lebanon Ford and got the Grabber Blue 2017.Yes I also got the Roush phase 2.I still have faith that things will come together sooner or later.Time will tell.
Does it work? How's the tune? Welcome!
 

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Does it work? How's the tune? Welcome!
Oops.Guess I miss guided u.Its still at Lebanon Ford.Sorry about that.Hey Im old ,so it takes time to get things straight.I cant sleep at night waiting for this car to get done.If I had gone whipple it would be done.Phase 1 was ready to install,but I wanted the phase 2 and was willing to wait.I was the first one that got a call when the car arrived on the hauler.
 

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They show 6 17's in inventory on the website. 5 are on order & only 1 is on the ground & it's not been modified.
Sounds to me like they are blowing smoke up your skirt !
:ninja: Yea I don't want it to seem like I'm bashing Lebanon but I would like someone to tell me the truth... Straight from Roush I was told that It would not work... I kinda wonder if the hype and publicity of this program overwhelmed them with orders and they had the superchargers in bulk as stated... And everyone assumed that it would be all worked out by the time the 17's came out?
 

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:ninja: Yea I don't want it to seem like I'm bashing Lebanon but I would like someone to tell me the truth... Straight from Roush I was told that It would not work... I kinda wonder if the hype and publicity of this program overwhelmed them with orders and they had the superchargers in bulk as stated... And everyone assumed that it would be all worked out by the time the 17's came out?
That would be my guess. Obviously they keep some # of kits (Phase I & II) in inventory or they'd have to wait all the time to get them from Roush. So they went ahead and built-out what they had hoping that by the time guys are really starting to romp on them & the issues started to appear the revised tune would be ready & they would just reflash the early ones.
 

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Oops.Guess I miss guided u.Its still at Lebanon Ford.Sorry about that.Hey Im old ,so it takes time to get things straight.I cant sleep at night waiting for this car to get done.If I had gone whipple it would be done.Phase 1 was ready to install,but I wanted the phase 2 and was willing to wait.I was the first one that got a call when the car arrived on the hauler.
I thought the 2017 tunes are on hold till December! :shrug:
 

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IM new here so don't beat me up.I sold my Grand National a couple weeks ago.So I called Lebanon Ford and got the Grabber Blue 2017.Yes I also got the Roush phase 2.I still have faith that things will come together sooner or later.Time will tell.
If not, let me know and we will get you taken care of. There is a process to getting new cals out with new software builds and it is time consuming and not always in your control. F
 

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Is the car still at the dealership, or just the S/C ?
Still at dealership.$51000 invested there so far.On their face book page it shows a mechanic putting a 727 kit on a car.That was July 5.Ive got to stick it out.6 yrs in the Navy and 4 Army.Im use to waiting.
 

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Hey guys, just thought I'd take some time to check in. My name is Charlie Watson and I am the ROUSH Performance Manager at Lebanon Ford Performance. I have been in contact with ROUSH and we are moving according to schedule. Parts of what you've read are correct and parts are not. Instead of dissecting each post, I'll give you the facts!

We are building supercharged GT's, non stop. ROUSH currently has the 2017 calibration on hold due to new model year. I do not have the details as to why that is, but I do know that ROUSH takes their time to do the job correctly. I was given a worst case deadline of July 31. That date came directly from ROUSH's vp of engineering and was given to me by the regional manager. We are working on an official statement and hope to release that in the next couple days. Sorry for the confusion on this guys! If any one has questions, feel free to let me know!

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Hey guys, just thought I'd take some time to check in. My name is Charlie Watson and I am the ROUSH Performance Manager at Lebanon Ford Performance. I have been in contact with ROUSH and we are moving according to schedule. Parts of what you've read are correct and parts are not. Instead of dissecting each post, I'll give you the facts!

We are building supercharged GT's, non stop. ROUSH currently has the 2017 calibration on hold due to new model year. I do not have the details as to why that is, but I do know that ROUSH takes their time to do the job correctly. I was given a worst case deadline of July 31. That date came directly from ROUSH's vp of engineering and was given to me by the regional manager. We are working on an official statement and hope to release that in the next couple days. Sorry for the confusion on this guys! If any one has questions, feel free to let me know!

Charlie Watson
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Thanks for chiming in. I think we can solve this issue and not only give you kits NOW with more power, we can guarantee we won't have to stop supplying our Stage 2 systems due to poor calibration issues. The best yet, you can also have a 50-state legal system instead of offering RACE only supercharger systems (it's a violation with EPA on non green states to tamper with vehicle in anyway, no such thing as 49-state legal).

Let me know if your interested and I can guarantee you better, safer, legal systems! Would love to work with you guys, just let me know.
 
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Hey guys, just thought I'd take some time to check in. My name is Charlie Watson and I am the ROUSH Performance Manager at Lebanon Ford Performance. I have been in contact with ROUSH and we are moving according to schedule. Parts of what you've read are correct and parts are not. Instead of dissecting each post, I'll give you the facts!

We are building supercharged GT's, non stop. ROUSH currently has the 2017 calibration on hold due to new model year. I do not have the details as to why that is, but I do know that ROUSH takes their time to do the job correctly. I was given a worst case deadline of July 31. That date came directly from ROUSH's vp of engineering and was given to me by the regional manager. We are working on an official statement and hope to release that in the next couple days. Sorry for the confusion on this guys! If any one has questions, feel free to let me know!

Charlie Watson
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www.charliejwatson.com
I spoke with Ford directly regarding this. You can reference my case number 992934. I was told by Jennifer, the regional customer service manager, that she consulted with the lead technical department at Ford regarding this issue. The reason for the delay is that the Roush 2.3 TVS supercharger was awaiting EPA and CARB certification for use on road going 2017 models. This certification is not expected to go through until 6 months.

This is nothing new. Disneyfun1 had ordered a supercharger last year for his 2016, and had to wait 6 months for this process to happen.

My entire intention of starting this thread was to create enough buzz, so that maybe Ford would get this process fast tracked. Maybe something has changed since the beginning of the week that now has this certification coming in at the end of July. I really hope it does, because I'd hate to see others go through what I have had to so far.

Nonetheless, I'm still going with Whipple as I believe they have the better product and are offering some type of power train warranty, whereas the Roush phase 2 does not.

I'm well over 50k invested with the car, supercharger, exhaust, and suspension components. By no means am I going to flirt the line with not having a street legal vehicle due to some EPA/CARB technicality.
 

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... The reason for the delay is that the Roush 2.3 TVS supercharger was awaiting EPA and CARB certification for use on road going 2017 models. This certification is not expected to go through until 6 months.
How did Whipple get this so much faster than Roush ? Is there anything new with the 2017 engine that requires re-certification?
 
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How did Whipple get this so much faster than Roush ? Is there anything new with the 2017 engine that requires re-certification?
This is the thing that is so frustrating. It is the same physical kit, and the same engine/transmission. I never got a square answer, only the 6 month timeline for 2017 models. You would think a company as large as Ford would have this stuff figured out ahead of time.:doh:
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