so is Ford going to develop a tranny cooler for us 16 tech/base owners?

[Caballus]

First of all..

Ford said the GT350R was "the most track capable Mustang ever built".

Source

The GT350R has all the coolers, etc..it IS the most track capable Mustang ever built.

Ford doesn't say the base GT350 is fully track ready, capable or is the most track capable Mustang ever..

Source

People are taking Ford's words about the GT350R and putting it as a blanket statement across the entire GT350 lineup..when it isn't meant to be so.

What truly sets this Beast apart is that the Shelby GT350® isn’t just a combination of “go fast” parts – any tuner can build one of those. The GT350 is a specifically engineered machine, where the components work dynamically together as one and perform to a world-class level on all fronts, as well as meeting Ford durability standards. It’s all due to the focus of the Ford Performance Engineers to make a car that delivers thrills like this, yet still possess everyday driveability. Quite simply, the GT350 was engineered so you will say – from the race track to winding back roads, the GT350 can do it all.

http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/features/#page=Feature4

I may be mistaken, but I thought that the R refers to the trademark on the name.

Most significant statement is "from the race track to winding back roads, the GT350 can do it all". .

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[stanglife]

For those who were fortunate enough to have seen that information. However, researching owners manuals to ensure the most track capable Mustang ever built can handle a single track session shouldn't be necessary.

Hey, I get it - people want their cake and to eat it, too. The fact is, there was a Track and effectively a "comfort" package available. Each package was documented well - we knew the track pack had the additional coolers. Did people think this was "just in case"?? I understand that people want the coolers... I don't understand that people are surprised and acting all confused about it. Get the coolers, be happy but suggesting that Ford should have included them is mind boggling.

 

[1320']

What truly sets this Beast apart is that the Shelby GT350® isn’t just a combination of “go fast” parts – any tuner can build one of those. The GT350 is a specifically engineered machine, where the components work dynamically together as one and perform to a world-class level on all fronts, as well as meeting Ford durability standards. It’s all due to the focus of the Ford Performance Engineers to make a car that delivers thrills like this, yet still possess everyday driveability. Quite simply, the GT350 was engineered so you will say – from the race track to winding back roads, the GT350 can do it all.

http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/features/#page=Feature4

I may be mistaken, but I thought that the R refers to the trademark on the name.

Most significant statement is "rom the race track to winding back roads, the GT350 can do it all". .

The little R is a registered name, basically a legal stamp. The "big R" is the GT350R as shown in the first link.

The R is a package, just like the Track Pack and Technology Pack.

GT350: "Winding Back Roads"

GT350 Track Pack/R: "Race track"

The GT350 is the primary model with the Track, Tech and R being all packages (the R is technically a package). The GT350 can "do it all" with the assortment of different specialized packages it has to offer.

 

[cosmo]

First of all..

Ford said the GT350R was "the most track capable Mustang ever built".

Source

The GT350R has all the coolers, etc..it IS the most track capable Mustang ever built.

Ford doesn't say the base GT350 is fully track ready, capable or is the most track capable Mustang ever..

Source

People are taking Ford's words about the GT350R and putting it as a blanket statement across the entire GT350 lineup..when it isn't meant to be so.

So then the purpose of the 350 base/tech is lost on me. What did they intend for it? Rolls from 60 and limited hard driving? It can't launch well for the strip, it can't be driven hard for long on the track (if this is spread across all vehicles, which we still don't know), is it only an all bark no bite car then?

 

[Grimace427]

I may be mistaken, but I thought that the R refers to the trademark on the name. .

The GT350 and GT350R are separate option codes for the Shelby Mustang, the R model being the more track-focused of the two what with its carbon fiber wheels and the deletion of the a/c and radio(Electronics Package puts those back in).

 

[Grimace427]

So then the purpose of the 350 base/tech is lost on me. What did they intend for it?

A fun car to drive and own?

 

[Caballus]

The little R is a registered name, basically a legal stamp. The "big R" is the GT350R as shown in the first link.

The R is a package, just like the Track Pack and Technology Pack.

GT350: "Winding Back Roads"

GT350 Track Pack/R: "Race track"

The GT350 is the primary model with the Track, Tech and R being all packages (the R is technically a package). The GT350 can "do it all" with the assortment of different specialized packages it has to offer.

That's disgusting. Ford is a symbol of America and Mustang is the penultimate element of that symbol. They should be completely ashamed for this.

 

[stanglife]

What truly sets this Beast apart is that the Shelby GT350® isn’t just a combination of “go fast” parts – any tuner can build one of those. The GT350 is a specifically engineered machine, where the components work dynamically together as one and perform to a world-class level on all fronts, as well as meeting Ford durability standards. It’s all due to the focus of the Ford Performance Engineers to make a car that delivers thrills like this, yet still possess everyday driveability. Quite simply, the GT350 was engineered so you will say – from the race track to winding back roads, the GT350 can do it all.

http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/features/#page=Feature4

I may be mistaken, but I thought that the R refers to the trademark on the name.

Most significant statement is "from the race track to winding back roads, the GT350 can do it all". .

For every quote that someone can pick and choose to suggest that Ford should have included the coolers - I can find a tech spec, quote and common-sense evidence that you should have bought the track pack.

"yet still possess everyday driveability" - so maybe these were meant to drive every day only, and not the race track? I'm just saying, stop picking one-liners to support what you want to happen and use some common sense. They should have offered everything at once, I agree - but picking the tech pack, those people specifically said, "I'm ok without the extra coolers.". Again, I don't think anyone with common sense is going to suggest that Ford engineers and accountants put coolers on just for the hell of it.

 

[cosmo]

A fun car to drive and own?

I'll buy a Miata if I just want a fun car to drive and own on back roads. I buy a 350 to be the king of the track.

 

[1320']

So then the purpose of the 350 base/tech is lost on me. What did they intend for it? Rolls from 60 and limited hard driving? It can't launch well for the strip, it can't be driven hard for long on the track (if this is spread across all vehicles, which we still don't know), is it only an all bark no bite car then?

Hard street/spirited driving on the streets and highways doesn't even really come close to the level of strain that repeated hard 20 minute sessions at a full blown racetrack can do. You're not constantly upshifting, downshifting and running around at WOT on roads..unless you're insane and don't care about other peoples safety and laws.

The base and tech cars are fantastic street cars that you can take on spirited drives but are not equipped for 20 minute long, hard jaunts at full blown racetracks.

Ford built a GT350 for someone who didn't want to spend a lot of money but still wanted a great street car-base GT350

Ford built a GT350 for someone who was going to be going to the track and needed the next level of performance for long, hard driving: GT350 Track Pack

Ford built a GT350 for someone who wanted more power, more aggressive looks and better performance than a GT Premium Performance Pack, but still wanted the leather interior, touch screen, heated and cooled seats: GT350 Technology Pack

Ford built a GT350 for people that wanted the absolute best performing, handling and track capable Mustang they could buy. Someone who didn't care about things like AC and the radio, they just wanted to go tear up tracks and put Z/28's and such on the trailer: GT350R

 

[Caballus]

For every quote that someone can pick and choose to suggest that Ford should have included the coolers - I can find a tech spec, quote and common-sense evidence that you should have bought the track pack.

"yet still possess everyday driveability" - so maybe these were meant to drive every day only, and not the race track? I'm just saying, stop picking one-liners to support what you want to happen and use some common sense. They should have offered everything at once, I agree - but picking the tech pack, those people specifically said, "I'm ok without the extra coolers.". Again, I don't think anyone with common sense is going to suggest that Ford engineers and accountants put coolers on just for the hell of it.

I don't think anyone with common sense is going to suggest that the GT350 in any form was expected to give out after 10-20 minutes of hard driving. That is crazy for any sports car.

 

[Spa2k]

For those who were fortunate enough to have seen that information. However, researching owners manuals to ensure the most track capable Mustang ever built can handle a single track session shouldn't be necessary.

Don't even try to tell us you limited your research to searching owner's manuals. :tsk:

The information was all over the Internet as soon as it was discovered. :frusty:

I don't think anyone with common sense is going to suggest that the GT350 in any form was expected to give out after 10-20 minutes of hard driving. That is crazy for any sports car.

That is not what was said, and it doesn't accurately describe the reality of the situation for a couple of owners who haven't identified the cause of their problems. You're free to interpret was was posted here any way you wish, but you're not free to rewrite the story to make your point.

 

[Caballus]

Don't even try to tell us you limited your research to searching owner's manuals. :tsk:

The information was all over the Internet as soon as it was discovered. :frusty:

Whatever. I hope Ford pays you well.

 

[Spa2k]

Whatever. I hope Ford pays you well.

And I hope you enjoy your Camaro.

 

[Caballus]

And I hope you enjoy your Camaro.

I already have plans to dump this car as soon as possible and get an M3. My first Mustang was a 67. My last Ford will be a 2016. It is what it is.

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