GT350 Exhaust Piped through Speakers?

[Voodooo]

This is complete bs. I never have my radio on. And my car is loud and definitely not going through the speakers. But a lot of car manufacturers including ford do this. But they are NOT doing this on the GT350

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[pa93cobra]

I ran my 350 through ETIS and I did not see "Active Sound Symposer" on the list. If I run my 15 Eco on ETIS, it is listed.
Here is the 350 build list:

Minor Features

• Ebony Interior
• Front Scuff Plates - With Insert
• SVT Standard NVH Trim Package
• SVT Front Fenders
• Less Deployable Bonnet
• With Hill Launch Assist
• Less - BTSI Manual Override
• (-) Version Packages
• Flatrock Assembly Plant - USA
• Less Special Equipment Package
• With Standard Duty Terrain Pack
• 4550 LB. GVWR
• Less Appearance Group
• SVT Badge
• Less Exterior Appearance Pack
• Feature Content Group 1
• Exterior Paint - Solid
• Less Security Pack
• With English Language Label
• Owner Hand Book Pack
• Equipment Package 16
• Less Outbound Modification Cnt
• Less Fire Extinguisher Fixings
• Less Warning Display
• Less Tool Kit
• Kit - Tyre Repair Service
• Power Front Windows One Touch Up/Do
• With Fixed Rear Vent Quarter Window
• With Laminated Windscreen
• With Heated Rear Window
• Less Console Ashtray
• Mini Overhead Cnsl W/Sunglass Bin
• Base Center Console
• Cup Holders (2) - Row 1
• Fixed Foot Pedals
• With Base Interior Decor
• Front Floor Carpet Mats
• I/P Insert -SVP
• With Illuminated Sunvisor - Drivers
• With Illuminated Sunvisor-Passenger
• With Level 5 Door Trim Panel
• With Load Floor Carpet - Thin
• Vehicle Cover B
• Open Grille
• Grille-Lower - SVT Unique
• Hood Scoop - SVT
• With Black Door Frame Moulding
• With Flush Spoiler
• Less Mirror Glass Etching
• Electric Operated Rear View Mirror
• Coupe
• Dual Power Mirrors
• With Black Exterior Mirror
• Less Driver Seat Back Map Pocket
• With Front Integral Head Rest
• With Lunar Contrast Stitching
• With Conventional Rear Seat
• 2 Way Rear Headrestraint- Lvl II
• Less Temp Control Driver Seat
• Less Temp Control Passengers Seat
• With Second Row Split Folding Seat
• With Driver 4 Way Mnl.Seat Adjuster
• With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
• Less Front Towing Hook
• Frequency - 315MHZ
• Power Door Lock With Elec Release
• Keyless Entry/Start - Passive
• With Variable Intermittent Windscreen Wiper
• Less Sun Roof
• Less Body Tu-Tone Paint
• Accent Stripe-White W/Black Strip
• Less Bodyside Accent Stripe
• Over The Top Stripe SVT
• Front Bumper - Sporty 2
• Rr Bump-Body Colour With Diffuser
• Less Front License Plate Bracket
• Less License Plate Bracket - Rear
• Blt/D&P Frt/1&2 Row/D/P Kne
• With Rollover Curtain And Sensors
• Air Curtain Restrnt LH
• Air Curtain Restrnt RH
• With Beltminder
• With Standard Rear Seat Belts
• With Smart Drivers Airbag Restraint
• With Isofix Hard Point Attachment
• Style 1 Tether Anchorage Restraint
• Seat Belt Pretensioners Drv/Pass
• S/Belt Locking Retraction - 3 Point
• Less Spare Wheel
• Tyre Pressure Sensors - 315 MHZ
• Less Rear Shock Absorbers
• 19X10.5 FT/19X11 Rr Pnt Cst Al
• Less Spare Tyre
• Centre Hub - Version A
• Non Locking Lug Nuts
• With Standard Engine Cooling System
• Less Immersion Heater
• Less Remote Starter
• 50 State Emission Requirements
• With Independant Rear Suspension
• Less Performance Pack
• Front Coil Spring-Stand Magnaride
• Front Stabilizer Bar- Magnaride
• Stabilizer Bar-Rr Magnaride
• 3.73
• Torsen Bias Ratio - Rr Axle
• MOD 5.2L-TIVCT PFI NA HP1 GAS
• Dual Exhaust
• With Bright Exhaust Extension
• Leather Handbrake Grip - SVT
• With Mechanical Parking Brake
• With Ventilated Disc Brakes
• With Brake Emergency Assist
• 4 Wheel Anti-Lock Braking System
• Standard SVT Series Brakes
• Normal Fuel Fill
• Less Hood Scoop - FIA
• Less Window Louvers - FIA
• Less Side Scoop - FIA
• Less Decklid Panel - FIA
• Less Floor Mats-FIA
• Coolers - Powertrain
• Less Manual Shift Auto Trans
• With Air Purifier Sensor
• Filter Cowl Intake - Odour
• A/C Refrigerant-R134A
• Non Locking Capless Fuel Fill
• For Unleaded Fuel
• Unique Met Finish Foot Pedals Pads
• With Electric Power Steering
• With Speed Control
• Mid Series Cluster
• With MPH/KMH Speedometer
• With Trip Computer
• With Instrument Gauges
• Dual Note Electric Horn - Level 2
• Less Acoustical Warning System
• Less Tyre Inflation Monitor
• Less Navigation System
• Less Speed Audible Warning Device
• Less Blind Spot Information System
• Human Machine Interface 2
• Less Anti-Theft Alarm
• With Remote Alarm System - PATS
• With Engine Immobilizer - Integral
• Less Secondary Security System
• Less Rear Parking Aid
• 43 AH Battery
• Less Battery Cables
• With NAAO Radio Frequency
• With Rear Window Aerial
• ICE-Low Level CD + AM/FM Radio
• Less Diversity Antenna
• Less Module/GPS Antenna
• ICE Noise Reduction Module
• With Premium Sound System
• Less Cell Phone Interface System
• With Media Gateway Module
• Less Garage Door Opener
• Power Point Converter (230V/150W)
• Rear View Camera-Fixed
• Less Specialty Packages
• Track Pack
• High Intensity Discharge Headlamp
• Less Daytime Running Lamps
• Less Front Fog Lamps
• Less Interior Light Group
• With Map Reading Light
• With Courtesy Light Delay
• Tail lamps - LED Rear
• Less Headlamp Levelling
• With Automatic Headlamp On/Off
• Deep Impact Blue
• Generic Country Group 1
• 6 Spd Man Trans-3160
• Mustang
• Shelby Version

 

[Trackaholic]

I think they were actually doing noise cancellation on the GT350 and the Ecoboost.

In effect trying to reduce certain frequencies to mask "bad" sounds. The GT350 also has the "soundscreen" front windshield for a similar effect.

I don't recall where I saw it (maybe in that thread linked earlier), but I think the noise cancellation was turned off if the trunk was opened. I was thinking one could test the effectiveness of the technology by driving around for a while with the trunk popped.

Also, I'm not convinced this is actually being used on the GT350. I drive around with my windows open all the time with the radio off, and I don't notice a signficant difference with the window up and the radio on. Also, the lack of radio at all on the GT350R makes one wonder if this is actually in use.

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[montreal ponies]

That might explain why i hear my rattle aka piston slap so much ! :shrug:

 

[Minn19]

If this is being done on the GT350, I would be surprised that it hasn't been reported by auto mags/journalists like Jalopnik etc. It is one of those hot topics right now in regards to cars like these.

Second, it is done really well in the GT350 if it is being done. My previous car was an M4 and with it on it sounds like the exhaust is in surround sound. I unplugged the amp that controlled it and it got quieter for one. And the sound went back to coming from the rear like it is supposed to.

Last, I've heard so much wrong information from salespeople, techs and service advisors that I don't put a lot of stock in what they say. Unless, I verify it myself or trust said person knows what they are talking about. Sadly, as many know here, we usually no more about these cars then people working at the dealerships.

 

[Shift]

Someone posted documentation proving it exists, and no, its not active noise cancellation, and yes its disappointing.

 

[BmacIL]

Pull the fuse to find out for sure. I really really doubt this.

 

[MCarsFan]

Coming from BMW which has this system, I obviously dont know how Ford implemented it, but if they did it the way everyone is doing, then it means whether the radio is off or volume is up or down has no impact on the volume of the sound of the exhaust from speaker. Its almost like the speaker has a smaller sub speaker built in that is always on. The only way to turn it off is by coding it out or by unplugging the sound module.

For a car like this, it is very disappointing and hard to understand. Car sounds amazing as it is...

 

[Praehotec]

Does it really matter, as long as it sounds good and performs well?

Plus, doesn't the car sound good with the window down, or when recorded/taped from outside cameras?

And what about the base R, which has no radio?

 

[MCarsFan]

This may be a new argument around here but I have been part of this debate since 2011 when back then new M5 was announced to have this feature. This thing has been beaten to death in pages and pages and pages of forum posts over the years and the final perception among car enthusiasts is simple : this kind of feature is anti pure/anti enthusiast/anti raw. You wont see this in purist cars or proper sports cars such as Porsche GT3/GT4 or Corvette or Viper.

Two aspects to this : purely audial annoyance because it bothers certain people (in bmw its very obvious and sounds artificial) and the other thing is it gives an opportunity for people to bad mouth that car.

In the BMW case, cars sound very quiet without it from inside. Shelby however is probably the loudest car I have heard in stock form. It makes no sense to do this.

 

[Praehotec]

This may be a new argument around here but I have been part of this debate since 2011 when back then new M5 was announced to have this feature. This thing has been beaten to death in pages and pages and pages of forum posts over the years and the final perception among car enthusiasts is simple : this kind of feature is anti pure/anti enthusiast/anti raw. You wont see this in purist cars or proper sports cars such as Porsche GT3/GT4 or Corvette or Viper.

Two aspects to this : purely audial annoyance because it bothers certain people (in bmw its very obvious and sounds artificial) and the other thing is it gives an opportunity for people to bad mouth that car.

In the BMW case, cars sound very quiet without it from inside. Shelby however is probably the loudest car I have heard in stock form. It makes no sense to do this.

We all know the gt350 sounds good from the outside already, so it has nothing people can bad mouth about its exhaust. If Ford pipes it into the cabin to allow better damping of road noise, and it is this hard to tell, then does it really matter? Really? I can see if a car with a terrible sounding engine has faked noise played by the stereo, then that's totally something to complain about, but the gt350 just doesn't fit this category.

Just seems to me a small thing to be concerned about with this car. Besides, in 20 years when we are all driving electric only cars that autopilot themselves, we will all need something to make the 'exhaust note' sound better! :headbonk:

 

[Anthony@HTM]

There is going to be a line at ford to return GT350s I'm sure! This is horrendous, oh the humanity!

 

[icormba]

I guess it's a good thing the radio/speakers suck, because I don't notice anything coming out of them. ;)

 

[dron_jones]

There is going to be a line at ford to return GT350s I'm sure! This is horrendous, oh the humanity!

For anyone who has an R allocation at MSRP that is overwhelmed by this new found information, i will help by taking your car off your hands:lol:

On a serious note, as a future owner i can't say i'm excited by this news but if the car is awesome (which everyone says it is), why would this change your opinion of it? First everyone complains that the radio sucks and should be better, now we aren't happy that its pumping in engine sounds? If the radio really sucks as bad as we all say it does, isn't this a moot point?

 

[TDC]

All I know about this is I HAVE to roll down the windows to truly enjoy the sound. If it is being done it is slight with the factory system to help overcome all the sound deadening with windows up.

Listened to my brother drive my car around the neighborhood and could hear him from a 1/4 mile away in a dense suburban neighborhood so no this car doesn't need it except for windows fully up.

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