Anthony@HTM
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Cooling issues are among us....
I've been debating on whether or not to bring some information that I have found from road racing the Ecoboost for the 3rd time this past weekend.
After my first time pushing this car in February I noticed oil temps rising and with the stock intercooler almost instant heat soak.
I immediately added a custom 25 row oil cooler along with an intercooler which helped the car last much longer at the track.
However this last trackday I added Hankook RS3s which allowed me to push the car much harder and I am now confident that this cars' cooling system is not up to the task for road racing out of the box.
My best session was my first session and as ambient temps slowly rose and so did oil temperatures from there on my lap times just got worse.
First thing is oil temperatures, with my 25 row oil cooler, non thermostatic sandwich plate and 10an lines I see a 20-30f drop in temps from the inlet to the outlet of the oil cooler. It is indeed working, and without it I am 100% certain that temps would have been in the red zone at this past event.
I logged 273F oil temps with my accessport, this is 7 degrees away from going into the yellow on the display in the instrument cluster.
Coolant temps peaked at 224F, this is very hot as well. Also keep in mind I have the Performance Package radiator.
Intercooler Charge temps peaked at 152F, this is with the Ultimate Racing Intercooler.
With this all being said I have some insight and a plan to get these temperatures in check.
Unfortunately the aftermarket hasn't been mentioning any sort of radiator upgrades for the near future so I decided venture out. I contacted Ron Davis Radiators and they were 100% ready for the challenge of making an Ecoboost radiator that can take anything you throw at it.
I sent them a brand new OEM Ecoboost Performance Package Radiator with an OEM fan so that they can make a direct fit replacement. The most challenging part is making the radiator hold the intercooler like the OEM one does. I will post development pictures and updates as I get them.
Oil temperatures will come down once the radiator is put in place, from my logs I can see how the coolant temps go hand in hand with each other.
I am on the list for Ambient Thermal Managements intercooler, I am really looking forward to seeing how it does.
Another thing I am doing is removing my stock downpipe and installing a 3 inch ATP unit. I'll have to modify it to fit with my custom catback which won't be an issue.
With a less restrictive downpipe back pressure and EGTs should drop, this should help with coolant and oil temps especially since we have the water pipe hanging right above the turbo.
I haven't seen anyone road race their Ecoboost to the extent I have yet, but hope to see more insight and findings from other people.
At this point I have to skip my trackday for the month of May because these temperatures are just too high for my liking and I know I'm just asking for trouble.
Hopefully I'll have the new radiator by mid June and can get the car back out racing.
Here's a pic of the stock PP radiator so you guys can get an idea of what it looks like. It has 2 inch end tanks with a 1.4 inch thick core.
If anyone could take a look, I'd be curious to see what the size of the standard Ecoboost radiator is.
I've been debating on whether or not to bring some information that I have found from road racing the Ecoboost for the 3rd time this past weekend.
After my first time pushing this car in February I noticed oil temps rising and with the stock intercooler almost instant heat soak.
I immediately added a custom 25 row oil cooler along with an intercooler which helped the car last much longer at the track.
However this last trackday I added Hankook RS3s which allowed me to push the car much harder and I am now confident that this cars' cooling system is not up to the task for road racing out of the box.
My best session was my first session and as ambient temps slowly rose and so did oil temperatures from there on my lap times just got worse.
First thing is oil temperatures, with my 25 row oil cooler, non thermostatic sandwich plate and 10an lines I see a 20-30f drop in temps from the inlet to the outlet of the oil cooler. It is indeed working, and without it I am 100% certain that temps would have been in the red zone at this past event.
I logged 273F oil temps with my accessport, this is 7 degrees away from going into the yellow on the display in the instrument cluster.
Coolant temps peaked at 224F, this is very hot as well. Also keep in mind I have the Performance Package radiator.
Intercooler Charge temps peaked at 152F, this is with the Ultimate Racing Intercooler.
With this all being said I have some insight and a plan to get these temperatures in check.
Unfortunately the aftermarket hasn't been mentioning any sort of radiator upgrades for the near future so I decided venture out. I contacted Ron Davis Radiators and they were 100% ready for the challenge of making an Ecoboost radiator that can take anything you throw at it.
I sent them a brand new OEM Ecoboost Performance Package Radiator with an OEM fan so that they can make a direct fit replacement. The most challenging part is making the radiator hold the intercooler like the OEM one does. I will post development pictures and updates as I get them.
Oil temperatures will come down once the radiator is put in place, from my logs I can see how the coolant temps go hand in hand with each other.
I am on the list for Ambient Thermal Managements intercooler, I am really looking forward to seeing how it does.
Another thing I am doing is removing my stock downpipe and installing a 3 inch ATP unit. I'll have to modify it to fit with my custom catback which won't be an issue.
With a less restrictive downpipe back pressure and EGTs should drop, this should help with coolant and oil temps especially since we have the water pipe hanging right above the turbo.
I haven't seen anyone road race their Ecoboost to the extent I have yet, but hope to see more insight and findings from other people.
At this point I have to skip my trackday for the month of May because these temperatures are just too high for my liking and I know I'm just asking for trouble.
Hopefully I'll have the new radiator by mid June and can get the car back out racing.
Here's a pic of the stock PP radiator so you guys can get an idea of what it looks like. It has 2 inch end tanks with a 1.4 inch thick core.
If anyone could take a look, I'd be curious to see what the size of the standard Ecoboost radiator is.
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