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[Tom C]

The law states otherwise. The dealer sold him a car with warranty, if he wanted to have a 3rd party check it out im sure he could have as a stipulation of the deal.

Hence 'caveat emptor'. I agree that the OP probably doesn't have a case, but that doesn't excuse the dealer from unethical (but not necessarily illegal) practices. Such a major issue like an engine replacement would make me think twice.

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[stoli]

I agree, but that's not my point. Unless you personally know the history of the car there's always that doubt. Why would someone buy a car without knowing the circumstances of a major repair? What if the car had come off of rental service where abuses are common? I'd want to know why the engine was replaced at the very least.

Let's say someone trades in their car and after the trade the service department notices a knock or some other issue that warrants a motor swap. How would they know why it got to that point? It could have been from a defect (look a the millions of Hyundai/Kia motors that were just recalled), poor maintenance, or years of abuse. At that point they don't care; they just need a new motor to sell the car.

As far as airbags, what about those that didn't deploy as a result of a collision, but were replaced in the Takata recall? And if an airbag deployed due to an accident, evidence of repaired front or side damage is easily verifiable by a qualified body technician.

Recall work follows the vin.

The dealer lied by omission and the OP was denied the opportunity to make an informed decision.

Should they have to declare when a transmission has been rebuilt, brakes are replaced, oil changes made? What about that squeaky dash panel that resulted in disassembly of the whole dash? Should dealers have to get a certified history from the person trading it in?

It's a used car. This is why they have CPO, used with warranty, extended warranty, and as-is. Be an informed consumer, read your paperwork and ask questions when in doubt - before signing anything.

 

[signal12]

If the engine had been swapped out earlier or by a different shop I would have no beef with Parks but THEY did the work and rolled it onto the used car lot literally three days before I bought it. And it was the attitude which they shoved the carfax of my immaculate truck in my face but then waved gloriously the clear carfax of the mustang at me while saying "Look, this car has been kept perfect" when that was known by them to not be the case. Remember, they KNEW the car was driven hard because THEY voided the warranty because of the tune installed!

 

[Blk2015GT]

the first thing that'd come to mind is that the car might have been abused. I'd be concerned about the trans and rear as well andI wouldn't take the chance.

MAYBE, MIGHT HAVE. That's not proof of anything either way.

OP also and equally had a FULL opportunity to have a mechanic inspect it as with any used car or walk away. There would be clear signs of abuse elsewhere on the car if it was so much that the engine failed (it takes a LOT of abuse to blow an engine absent natural failure).

And you must not read the forums very often. There PLENTY of stories of unmodded 2.3 and 5.0 that fail. There are MANY stories of 5.2s that are failing with zero modding. It doest mean anyone did anything wrong. Ford replaced them everyone went on their way just fine.

THEY did the work and rolled it onto the used car lot literally three days before I bought it.

Remember, they KNEW the car was driven hard because THEY voided the warranty because of the tune installed!

So what? Again, it was a NEW OEM Ford motor and accessories; what more exactly do you want? It's a used car; you could have waited saved up and bought new as well mint from the plant. Used implies it was driven as the sports car it was, and possibly had unreported work done on it just like any passenger car out there. Plenty of people have mechanical work done and plastics/parts replaced cash without insurance involved due to high deductibles which never gets reported to the next owner or Carfax. The car is just as good as before it was damaged with the replacement/new parts (absent perhaps paint which is a different story).

They didn't KNOW anything; you want to infer that they knew how the car was driven before it rolled into the dealership bay dead. A tune does NOT mean the car was driven hard and is not evidence of such. I've had a tune on prior mustangs and did nothing more than daily driving; mainly for better driveability and throttle response; never abused one time even. What you think they knew and what they actually knew, or can be proved they knew, are 2 totally different stories.

You also broke the #1 cardinal rule of used cars and chose not to due your part of the due diligence process on the other side of the argument and have a mechanic inspect it.

This is kicking a dead horse now. You have a new motor (which I would be ECSTATIC about rather than one that who knows what was done to it) and can cancel your ESP extended warranty for nearly all or a full refund. You have zero damages here.

 

[signal12]

MAYBE, MIGHT HAVE. That's not proof of anything either way.

OP also and equally had a FULL opportunity to have a mechanic inspect it as with any used car or walk away. There would be clear signs of abuse elsewhere on the car if it was so much that the engine failed (it takes a LOT of abuse to blow an engine absent natural failure).

And you must not read the forums very often. There PLENTY of stories of unmodded 2.3 and 5.0 that fail. There are MANY stories of 5.2s that are failing with zero modding. It doest mean anyone did anything wrong. Ford replaced them everyone went on their way just fine.



So what? Again, it was a NEW OEM Ford motor and accessories; what more exactly do you want? It's a used car; you could have waited saved up and bought new as well mint from the plant. Used implies it was driven as the sports car it was, and possibly had unreported work done on it just like any passenger car out there. Plenty of people have mechanical work done and plastics/parts replaced cash without insurance involved due to high deductibles which never gets reported to the next owner or Carfax. The car is just as good as before it was damaged with the replacement/new parts (absent perhaps paint which is a different story).

They didn't KNOW anything; you want to infer that they knew how the car was driven before it rolled into the dealership bay dead. A tune does NOT mean the car was driven hard and is not evidence of such. I've had a tune on prior mustangs and did nothing more than daily driving; mainly for better driveability and throttle response; never abused one time even. What you think they knew and what they actually knew, or can be proved they knew, are 2 totally different stories.

You also broke the #1 cardinal rule of used cars and chose not to due your part of the due diligence process on the other side of the argument and have a mechanic inspect it.

This is kicking a dead horse now. You have a new motor (which I would be ECSTATIC about rather than one that who knows what was done to it) and can cancel your ESP extended warranty for nearly all or a full refund. You have zero damages here.

You know, I looked back at some of your posts. They are usually very contrary to WHATEVER the OP posts or thinks. So, I'm not going to bother trying to rationalize with you since I'm sure, looking at this above contrivance that you'll assume I'm too ignorant, uneducated or poor to have done anything differently. So go have fun with your car, I'm sure it turns many girls or boys heads, Hell I may even think it's a great car, BUT, my priorities are obviously different than yours. Enjoy your ride, I'm going to enjoy mine. And shoot ou can't be all bad, you're not driving a Dodge!

 

[Blk2015GT]

:lol:

 

[Jackie Chan]

U may want to reread FTC regulations found at 16 CFR 455 (the Used Car Rule) specifically states that omission of known facts pertinent to the condition of the used car constitutes fraud.

But AGAIN, THE RIGHT THING TO DO would have been full disclosure.

I 10000000% guarantee you that does not apply

 

[signal12]

Obviously, you are right. Good day.

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