Winter driving

[Monopoly]

thats unreal
just showed the whole office
are the roads not gritted?

Nope. Montreal is insane to drive in the winter. Traffic is also pretty gnarly.

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[goldengooner]

i envy you. i live in the pacific northwest... ie. mountain terrain.

this is the joy i had to experience this morning...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/snow-vancouver-1.3881508

can't wait for everything to freeze later this week. city crews did absolutely nothing to prepare... no sand, salt, brine, plowing... nothing.

opposite view.

and that's pack ice you see under the snow... pray for me when i go home after work today :(

why do the buses say "sorry" on the sign?

 

[wireeater]

People always forget to release the brakes. You have no control with locked tires...

I've slowly but surely converted friends and family over to switching to winter tires. They've all said 100% worth it but had no idea it'd make such a difference.

At most they should have tried steering into the other lane where there was actual exposed asphalt to get grip.

 

[thumper]

why do the buses say "sorry" on the sign?

the sign flashes "sorry out of service". photographer caught the first part.

 

[BoostedCanadianPoney]

People always forget to release the brakes. You have no control with locked tires....

trust me when you have ice on the ground plus a coat of fresh snow, its like soap, nothing you can do really there is zero traction even with snow tires

 

[Hack]

trust me when you have ice on the ground plus a coat of fresh snow, its like soap, nothing you can do really there is zero traction even with snow tires

It's hard to know for sure, but when I see the pedestrians having no problem walking I start to think "poor tires". It's not uncommon at all for me to have trouble walking across the parking lot after driving to work with no issues at all.

 

[Dannyho]

trust me when you have ice on the ground plus a coat of fresh snow, its like soap, nothing you can do really there is zero traction even with snow tires

should also point out, that when this happens, it doesn't matter what you're driving.

 

[khannected]

Snow is a no go if you have the 19" or 20" pirellis the car comes with. Anything below 40 degrees Fahrenheit is dicey, let alone snow and ice. Once it snows and my car is outside I do not move it until it melts.

 

[thumper]

With stock'ish height and winter tires, you should be mostly fine.

Nokian fan over here - I have Hakka R2s on all my cars. It might be worth it to go studded in Montréal for the hills. It's pretty flat in Winnipeg.

Salt will be a thing and you should try to clean the underside of your car often.

where do you buy your nokians? here in BC kal tire has a monopoly on selling the brand and they cost a lot...

 

[thumper]

My GT with Blizzak WS80s was a total champ in the ~5" we got yesterday. I never even got close to having a traction issue.

how is the treadwear? i tried blizzaks once a long time ago when they first came out and they were incredible. black ice was not even an issue. but they wore down very quickly and i couldn't get 2 winters out of them... has it gotten better now?

 

[Hack]

how is the treadwear? i tried blizzaks once a long time ago when they first came out and they were incredible. black ice was not even an issue. but they wore down very quickly and i couldn't get 2 winters out of them... has it gotten better now?

I have three years so far on my blizzaks.

 

[thumper]

I have three years so far on my blizzaks.

percentage-wise, how much snow do you see vs. wet/dry pavement with these tires? because that was the problem i was experiencing with mine... i was not getting more than 20% snowfall during the winter season and the pavement just ate them up :(

 

[metalhead79]

percentage-wise, how much snow do you see vs. wet/dry pavement with these tires? because that was the problem i was experiencing with mine... i was not getting more than 20% snowfall during the winter season and the pavement just ate them up :(

That was why I went with 'winter performance' tires. From what I have read they won't grip quite as well in snow/ice, but the trade off is that they won't wear out as fast on cold, dry roads. Pretty much perfect for the environment I live in. Not much snow but very cold in winter.

 

[thumper]

thanks for the reply.

i got this from another message board:

At the Auto Bild TUV test this year, they ranked

1. Continental WinterContact
2. Michelin Alpin 5
3. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
4. Dunlop Winter Sport
5. Pirelli Cinturrato Winter
6. Semperit (we don't have it here)
7. Nokian WR D4
8. Hankook Winter i*cept RS2
9. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001

my pirelli winter sottozeros didn't even make the cut :(

 

[BmacIL]

how is the treadwear? i tried blizzaks once a long time ago when they first came out and they were incredible. black ice was not even an issue. but they wore down very quickly and i couldn't get 2 winters out of them... has it gotten better now?

I'm going into the 2nd winter now. They still have 9/32nds on all tires, and I put about 7500 miles on them last winter. I drive a little less than I did last year, so we'll see how they are after this winter. I think I'll be able to squeak one more winter out of them before they're done.

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