white smoke

[lisandra]

The link to our catch cans can be found below:

Stage 1 [CCV]

Stage 2 [PCV]


I'll have to look around for the link to the oil feed banjo bolt. Can't remember if it was this forum, or the other one.

EDIT:

Here's the link I was looking for: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18671

So i install them both? One on the ccv side and another on the pcv? Or just the pcv?

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[chadhtx40]

I've seen this thread go on and on. Has anyone created a video of steps to go through pretty much scripted steps of how to to resolve this issue. One could probably just fast forward through some of the easy steps and then really highlight the key steps that are a little more difficult. I don't have this issue at least right now, but I think it might help others resolve this issue. If one exists already that's great and I missed it.

 

[lisandra]

Not to thread jack, but a lot of people have also reported the cause of smoke being the banjo bolt on the turbo oil feed line. There have been some reports that have shown the hole in this banjo bolt to be too large, allowing excess oil to flow into the turbo causing the seals to swell up, causing the smoking.

On another note, we now offer catch cans for both sides of the vacuum system on the Ecoboost Mustang and they come with everything you need to install!

What would a fix for the banjo thing be? Im now seeing oil in my charge pipes

 

[Edkiefer]

What would a fix for the banjo thing be? Im now seeing oil in my charge pipes

He is referring to a "fix" were you restrict the passage in the banjo to limit oil flow .

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18671
Over the yrs some makes/models did this to help in oil problems .

When you say "oil in my change pipe" , which one and were ?
you have turbo to intercooler and intercooler to TB .

If your seeing oil film on turbo outlet, check to see if there is same thing on inlet . If so then its not turbo but breather (PCV system ) .

 

[lisandra]

He is referring to a "fix" were you restrict the passage in the banjo to limit oil flow .

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18671
Over the yrs some makes/models did this to help in oil problems .

When you say "oil in my change pipe" , which one and were ?
you have turbo to intercooler and intercooler to TB .

If your seeing oil film on turbo outlet, check to see if there is same thing on inlet . If so then its not turbo but breather (PCV system ) .

Both. Not a huuuuge amount but enough that its blowing out of my vented bov. So if its pcv a catch can should fix things right up right? Thanks.

I finally got through the whole 40 pages of the ither thread and still have questions. Why gut the pcv and get anther valve? Why not jeep the pcv and add the catcth can on the pcv side? Did i understand wrong in that a catch can can be put on both the ccv and pcv side? Being tuned makes oil issues worse?

 

[Edkiefer]

Both. Not a huuuuge amount but enough that its blowing out of my vented bov. So if its pcv a catch can should fix things right up right? Thanks.

I finally got through the whole 40 pages of the ither thread and still have questions. Why gut the pcv and get anther valve? Why not jeep the pcv and add the catcth can on the pcv side? Did i understand wrong in that a catch can can be put on both the ccv and pcv side? Being tuned makes oil issues worse?

ok, Since I don't own ecoboost but have worked on many turbo cars .
the oil film on intake from breather is totally normal .
Now how much is excessive is hard to say , one vender said they didn't see a lot of oil on this side of PVC system (the breather from valve cover to turbo intake pipe ).
I can't really comment other than if you think about it, while under boost, that is only pipe moving crankcase vapors as PVC valve is closed .

Hopefully others can comment more .

But note, some catch cans only filter the PCV side, while others do go into intake side (3 hose catch can) , but still leave the breather hose alone .
So make sure you get the one you want for your needs, it is tricky with so many options available .

On your question of why they gutted the PCV valve , so you know a PCV is just a check valve (one way valve) so it has spring pressure to go against before it flows . Now it seems that for example you put your AC on, this drops vacuum to lower valve and car smokes .
So gutted PCV, using separate check valve must be working better for low vacuum conditions . that why combination of catch can plus check valve works for them .

 

[lisandra]

ok, Since I don't own ecoboost but have worked on many turbo cars .
the oil film on intake from breather is totally normal .
Now how much is excessive is hard to say , one vender said they didn't see a lot of oil on this side of PVC system (the breather from valve cover to turbo intake pipe ).
I can't really comment other than if you think about it, while under boost, that is only pipe moving crankcase vapors as PVC valve is closed .

Hopefully others can comment more .

But note, some catch cans only filter the PCV side, while others do go into intake side (3 hose catch can) , but still leave the breather hose alone .
So make sure you get the one you want for your needs, it is tricky with so many options available .

On your question of why they gutted the PCV valve , so you know a PCV is just a check valve (one way valve) so it has spring pressure to go against before it flows . Now it seems that for example you put your AC on, this drops vacuum to lower valve and car smokes .
So gutted PCV, using separate check valve must be working better for low vacuum conditions . that why combination of catch can plus check valve works for them .

So how does one gut the pcv. Ive done alot of stuff to many a car, but that i dont know how

 

[Edkiefer]

So how does one gut the pcv. Ive done alot of stuff to many a car, but that i dont know how

The info is in that thread i posted before .
If you plan to do that you need catch can and check valve before you attempt modifying PCV .
But what they did was cut the end to remove spring and plunger so its just a fitting .
DO you have blue smoke at idle with AC on ?
having oil film on intake pipe is not problem , unless it to point of dripping or something .
I would post in the other thread .

 

[lisandra]

The info is in that thread i posted before .
If you plan to do that you need catch can and check valve before you attempt modifying PCV .
But what they did was cut the end to remove spring and plunger so its just a fitting .
DO you have blue smoke at idle with AC on ?
having oil film on intake pipe is not problem , unless it to point of dripping or something .
I would post in the other thread .

Im at that point of dripping. Not that i find a puddle on the ground in the morning but theres a decent amount of residue in the belly pan. Dude i read that thread, i honestly didnt see how to guy the pcv there. Ill look it over again i guess.

 

[Edkiefer]

Im at that point of dripping. Not that i find a puddle on the ground in the morning but theres a decent amount of residue in the belly pan. Dude i read that thread, i honestly didnt see how to guy the pcv there. Ill look it over again i guess.

here what he did

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=641249&postcount=524

You didn't say if your getting blue smoke at idle with A/C on and much less with it off .other see mark difference with just toggling the A/C on/off.

On your intake, maybe take a pic so others can compare .
I will say harder you drive (in boost a lot) the more chance of seeing some oil by intake , but you shouldn't see leaks or oil coming from hose connections , just some if you take pipe off and wipe inside with your finger .
See what others say .

 

[Boomba Racing]

So i install them both? One on the ccv side and another on the pcv? Or just the pcv?

The PCV side will catch most of the oil and contaminants.

 

[Edkiefer]

Im at that point of dripping. Not that i find a puddle on the ground in the morning but theres a decent amount of residue in the belly pan. Dude i read that thread, i honestly didnt see how to guy the pcv there. Ill look it over again i guess.

I missed this part , so your seeing oil wet oil pan ?
If so check if you can see what area it dripping from . I saw a few had loose pressure sender by the oil filter .
I don't think it is related to turbo, unless it is running down the return line and I don't think that would happen in your descriptions .

 

[Edkiefer]

The PCV side will catch most of the oil and contaminants.

Hi Boomba ,quick question if you know, does these engines have oil mesh filter type baffle in the valve cover by the breather hose outlet ?

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