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[evo8904]

What combo/cars(s) did you see 30hp on in the past? The reason I ask is in this case you are not going to be fuel or blower limited. You are going to be shortblock limited. You don't need to employ any "tricks" for more power. You can already make more than enough to grenade the motor.

And would cars have you ran it on? I ran a kit on my STI and EVO, both making 500whp. The EVO was actually on the stock block tuned at 36psi for 80k miles the key is having failsafes. The main thing that blows engines is bad tunes.

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[sqidd]

And would cars have you ran it on?

Do you mean "What cars have you ran it on"? If so what does that have to do with anything? And no, that doesn't mean I haven't.

I ran a kit on my STI and EVO, both making 500whp. The EVO was actually on the stock block tuned at 36psi for 80k miles the key is having failsafes. The main thing that blows engines is bad tunes.

You are talking to Mr Failsafe here. I have failsafes for my failsafes.

You won't need the failsafe of meth unless you build the bottom end of the motor. Unless you find some sort of failsafe that keeps blocks from splitting.

In the Mustang world failures are due to parts breakage most of the time, not bad tunes. You won't be anywhere close to the edge you are used to being at.

I'm trying to give you some hard earned knowledge here. If you don't want it just let me know. What would be my motivation for steering you wrong?

 

[evo8904]

Do you mean "What cars have you ran it on"? If so what does that have to do with anything? And no, that doesn't mean I haven't.



You are talking to Mr Failsafe here. I have failsafes for my failsafes.

You won't need the failsafe of meth unless you build the bottom end of the motor. Unless you find some sort of failsafe that keeps blocks from splitting.

In the Mustang world failures are due to parts breakage most of the time, not bad tunes. You won't be anywhere close to the edge you are used to being at.

I'm trying to give you some hard earned knowledge here. If you don't want it just let me know. What would be my motivation for steering you wrong?

My view on if a part break is that gives me a reason to upgrade. However, from what I have read, the 5.0 is strong and has been upgraded for 2015. The combo of the parts that I have bought including the Whipple kit is going to be a beast. I am glad that I picked this kit above all of the other kits that I looked at.

Also, I will not be driving this car is hard as my EVO. I had my launch control set on the EVO for 6500 and it would build 15psi. The stock clutch did last for 42 launches

 

[sqidd]

My view on if a part break is that gives me a reason to upgrade. However, from what I have read, the 5.0 is strong and has been upgraded for 2015.

It is only so strong, it's not bulletproof. If you are going to be beating on it (which I fully condone) you will probably scatter the motor at 700hp. And as of right now short of a filled block there are no upgrades. The next block will crack too.

Yes, there are guys that have made more power. Mostly on the dyno, which is not even close to real life. Almost all of the guys running them hard at 750ish + are running filled blocks. Of course someone will be able to post a video of one on a stock block running 850. there will always be that guy. But that guy is on borrowed time.

The combo of the parts that I have bought including the Whipple kit is going to be a beast. I am glad that I picked this kit above all of the other kits that I looked at.

A agree, for what you want to do it is the best combo out there.

 

[Whipple SC]

Block is not really an issue, the cobra jets are all at 1000 hp and massive rpm, never fail block. The cylinder pressure is literally off the charts.

 

[Ninjak]

I will say that the Whipple kit is truly impressive. It is the first time I have seen a kit include a H/E with fans no less in the kit.

This setup looks like how a GT500 is setup. Hmmm going to have to be mindful when dealing with 15's now. A 15 with this kit will truly be a match for most.

Great Job Whipple.

 

[Grimace427]

It is the first time I have seen a kit include a H/E with fans no less in the kit.

Don't mean to thread jack, VMP includes HE fans with their TVS kits.

http://vmptuning.com/50l-superchargers/stage250gen2/

 

[Ninjak]

Don't mean to thread jack, VMP includes HE fans with their TVS kits.

http://vmptuning.com/50l-superchargers/stage250gen2/

I see. In my defense I never research a kit for the 5.0. Just deal with things on the GT500 side. But yes, VMP kit is nice as well. I think the TB could be a littler better. Thats just a stock GT500 TB. Hmm on second thought I guess on a 5.0 though its a good upgrade. I do not know how large the stock TB is on a 5.0.

 

[sqidd]

Block is not really an issue, the cobra jets are all at 1000 hp and massive rpm, never fail block. The cylinder pressure is literally off the charts.

Cobra Jet blocks aren't the same.

 

[Grimace427]

I see. In my defense I never research a kit for the 5.0. Just deal with things on the GT500 side. But yes, VMP kit is nice as well. I think the TB could be a littler better. Thats just a stock GT500 TB. Hmm on second thought I guess on a 5.0 though its a good upgrade. I do not know how large the stock TB is on a 5.0.

They offer upgrades to a dual-67mm ported TB and the CJ oval TB with their kits.

No more thread jacking for me!

 

[Jmeo]

Listen there are a lot of options out there and for some the option it "this" and others it's "that" but for me my choice is Whipple. I am very excited to have this up and running and I will be sure to update this thread as much as I can once the ball starts rolling.


Once again I thank Whipple Superchargers for participating in my thread and I welcome everyone to their input and questions but "can't we all just get along" ;)

Jaime


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[Anthony]

Block is not really an issue, the cobra jets are all at 1000 hp and massive rpm, never fail block. The cylinder pressure is literally off the charts.

Quoted for the truth.

 

[evo8904]

Listen there are a lot of options out there and for some the option it "this" and others it's "that" but for me my choice is Whipple. I am very excited to have this up and running and I will be sure to update this thread as much as I can once the ball starts rolling.


Once again I thank Whipple Superchargers for participating in my thread and I welcome everyone to their input and questions but "can't we all just get along" ;)

Jaime


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I agree! I am super excited for the Whipple Kit. This kit gives you a lot of room for growth. Also, it is a much easier install than the Ford/Roush kit.

 

[TorkN8R]

Guy's please don't shred me...I'm only asking for some education. Whipple is the SC system that I will be ordering, I was just wondering about HP to Torque ratio's.

I always assumed from my limited knowledge about this, that there was a percentage ratio between HP and Torque. Kind of like 15% parasitic loss in relation to crank numbers and RW numbers.

Until the new 2015 Whipple came out...I was looking at the FRPP/Whipple SC that was offered for the 2014 5.0, It had 624 RWHP @6900rpm and 536RWTQ @4700rpm with 9lbs. of boost.

So...why is it that the new system produces so much more HP in relation to torque being the same or in some of the videos in the thread actually showing a bit less torque?

I do understand that of course the HP has increased due to improvements, but why hasn't there been a corresponding increase in torque?

Another member mentioned on this thread that VMP's TVS systems make excellent torque. The old version of Whipple SC was the same 2.3 TVS type SC system.

Does that type system, just happen to make more torque ?

Please help me understand...much appreciated.

 

[sqidd]

Guy's please don't shred me...I'm only asking for some education. Whipple is the SC system that I will be ordering, I was just wondering about HP to Torque ratio's.

I always assumed from my limited knowledge about this, that there was a percentage ratio between HP and Torque. Kind of like 15% parasitic loss in relation to crank numbers and RW numbers.

Until the new 2015 Whipple came out...I was looking at the FRPP/Whipple SC that was offered for the 2014 5.0, It had 624 RWHP @6900rpm and 536RWTQ @4700rpm with 9lbs. of boost.

So...why is it that the new system produces so much more HP in relation to torque being the same or in some of the videos in the thread actually showing a bit less torque?

I do understand that of course the HP has increased due to improvements, but why hasn't there been a corresponding increase in torque?

Another member mentioned on this thread that VMP's TVS systems make excellent torque. The old version of Whipple SC was the same 2.3 TVS type SC system.

Does that type system, just happen to make more torque ?

Please help me understand...much appreciated.

The bigger blowers spinning slower won't make the same kind of torque as the smaller blowers that are spun faster.

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