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So back on topic. OP, I'd definitely buy Kooks over ARH. Just my opinion. I received my Kooks for another car and I wanted something changed on them for my particular application. They offered to make the change for free as long as I paid shipping - which I thought was very reasonable. That type of thing retains customers.

Not that ARH is bad - I've had their headers, too - just my most recent experience with Kooks will have me shopping there first.
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So back on topic. OP, I'd definitely buy Kooks over ARH. Just my opinion. I received my Kooks for another car and I wanted something changed on them for my particular application. They offered to make the change for free as long as I paid shipping - which I thought was very reasonable. That type of thing retains customers.

Not that ARH is bad - I've had their headers, too - just my most recent experience with Kooks will have me shopping there first.
So pretty much bc of the customer service. I'd just wait for more results to pop up before making a decision. They are both good but I'd prefer whatever makes more power.
 

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So pretty much bc of the customer service. I'd just wait for more results to pop up before making a decision. They are both good but I'd prefer whatever makes more power.
IMO, they are going to be so close - and it's going to be very difficult to get an accurate comparison test with all of the variables of cars, temps, tunes, mods... While we'd love to make power the #1 decision-maker, it's probably the most difficult to quantify. For that reason, I say pick the one that fits the best, is the right price for you, is close to you, your installer has experience with...a bunch of other things before power...strange, I know.
 

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So back on topic. OP, I'd definitely buy Kooks over ARH. Just my opinion. I received my Kooks for another car and I wanted something changed on them for my particular application. They offered to make the change for free as long as I paid shipping - which I thought was very reasonable. That type of thing retains customers.

Not that ARH is bad - I've had their headers, too - just my most recent experience with Kooks will have me shopping there first.
I've had nothing but great experiences with ARH. When I had my GT500, I went back and forth between an X pipe and an h pipe. I initially had an h pipe installed, after a week, I decided the h pipe and my mufflers weren't the right sound so I brought the car back and and they installed an X pipe and took the
h pipe back with no problem, and they didn't charge me.
 

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I've had nothing but great experiences with ARH. When I had my GT500, I went back and forth between an X pipe and an h pipe. I initially had an h pipe installed, after a week, I decided the h pipe and my mufflers weren't the right sound so I brought the car back and and they installed an X pipe and took the
h pipe back with no problem, and they didn't charge me.
That's how it should be. Two good companies both offering excellent products. Hard to choose between them and I don't think you can go wrong.
 
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I just finished install of ARH 17/8 long tubes with cats and full system front to back on my GT 350. Loading the lund tune next. My car baseline is 457 on a dynojet. It will be going back on the same dyno later this week to measure changes. I have a 2009 GT500 with KOOKS system. It is nice hardware as well.

From my experience ARH customer service is far better. The entire staff that I have dealt with has been superior to that of my dealings with kooks.
 

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I just finished install of ARH 17/8 long tubes with cats and full system front to back on my GT 350. Loading the lund tune next. My car baseline is 457 on a dynojet. It will be going back on the same dyno later this week to measure changes. I have a 2009 GT500 with KOOKS system. It is nice hardware as well.

From my experience ARH customer service is far better. The entire staff that I have dealt with has been superior to that of my dealings with kooks.
any updates

Does Lund have a good tune for this yet?
 

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When I get time and make it back to Watson for more dyno pulls, I'm going to dyno my new Lund tune and then have Kim tune it and see where I stand. This data logging shit sucks ass. Plus I only use Sunoco 260gt 100 octane exclusively now.
 

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I wouldn't waste time or money with a Lund tune unless he's tuning remotely or he's actually tuning on a Dyno.
Unfortunately that's what I have now,hopefully after more dyno time and data logging I can get it right. If not I guess will be calling Livernois and spending another 600 bucks.
 

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It's best to drive to the tuner and have them spend their time with it on the dyno.
Yes I agree 100% but unfortunately there are no tuners close to me that I would trust tuning one of these cars.
 

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Yes I agree 100% but unfortunately there are no tuners close to me that I would trust tuning one of these cars.
Get some inquires.. A lot of tuners travel and if you get a group of cars together it will be cheaper.
 

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We have tuned the GT350 already, and posted this on our Facebook last week. Unfortunately, many owners do not want all of their mods or final power numbers documented.

Here is a compromise that we were able to make with him:
 

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When I get time and make it back to Watson for more dyno pulls, I'm going to dyno my new Lund tune and then have Kim tune it and see where I stand. This data logging shit sucks ass. Plus I only use Sunoco 260gt 100 octane exclusively now.
super interested in where Kims work would deviate from Lunds. Due to your lean issues and the fact that the Canned tune on my car didn't play well with the Lethal off road pipes I think that canned tunes for this car probably leave a lot to be desired.

From my perspective the Lund flex fuel has worked best on straight 93 bone stock, and with Corn up to 50 percent or so. Past this I am getting a lot of pops and snaps through the exuast. Not the corn popping kind you expect under decel, loud single pops.

I think I will effectively run e50 as it to me has the same torque down low, slightly better mileage, and a good daily driver appeal. Exhaust popped two days ago slowing down under an overpass and people though a gun went off. I'm thinking those cats are taking a beating.
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