When is it too late for a Whipple Install?

[Z_Rocks]

Are there turbos out there that can be installed by an ASE tech and come with a 3 year/36,000 mile warranty? I think that's my main purchasing point. If I can modify with some kinda guarantee, I'll be happy. At least you have some peace of mind.

I'm not affiliated with any vendor to know their parts warranty terms. However, all these after market F/I kits WILL break your factory warranty, including Whipple. So, I'm not sure what the 3/36000 covers, which you should do research on the turbo kits and ask the vendor if they also offer same warranty as Whipple does.

Recently, some of the Hellcats, have had bad bearings in the S/C from the factory which need to be replaced by dealer. A guy, who had recently changed it's air intake to a Cold Air Intake, had the same bearing problem. He takes his hellcat to a dealer and the dealer blames the bearing failure on the CAI and flags him and voids his S/C warranty, even though it's a known issue by Chrysler. And he had to go through hoops with another dealer to remove the flag and fix his problem.

I pointed this out, because dealers can become real dick sometime and look for all sort of excuses to void your warranty. I've been through hell with Chevy dealers on this.

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[Dominant1]

There's alot more whipple issues in this forced induction section then there are turbo issues. The jpc turbo kit is cheaper, hellion single kit is cheaper & there's another twin kit builder thats coming out with single kit for just $4995, i forget the name..theres no substitute for free hp. It takes 40-50 hp to spin a blower, not the case with turbos! And you can turn it up at will!

 

[Z_Rocks]

i forget the name..

Boostworks, CPR and JCP are all coming out with Single turbo, ranging from 600 - 1200 RWHP. Pick your kit based on your needs.

 

[daltron]

I'm not affiliated with any vendor to know their parts warranty terms. However, all these after market F/I kits WILL break your factory warranty, including Whipple. So, I'm not sure what the 3/36000 covers, which you should do research on the turbo kits and ask the vendor if they also offer same warranty as Whipple does.

Recently, some of the Hellcats, have had bad bearings in the S/C from the factory which need to be replaced by dealer. A guy, who had recently changed it's air intake to a Cold Air Intake, had the same bearing problem. He takes his hellcat to a dealer and the dealer blames the bearing failure on the CAI and flags him and voids his S/C warranty, even though it's a known issue by Chrysler. And he had to go through hoops with another dealer to remove the flag and fix his problem.

I pointed this out, because dealers can become real dick sometime and look for all sort of excuses to void your warranty. I've been through hell with Chevy dealers on this.

He is referring to the optional Whipple warranty.

 

[Z_Rocks]

He is referring to the optional Whipple warranty.

I understand. I was just saying to see what that option covers and see if any Turbo vendor can offer the same option. But I doubt it covers a blown engine due to F/I addition.

 

[16MustangVet]

On3 is cheaper. Not sure what else is...

Turbo kits are great, but every single person I know that's installed one has had issues. From fitment issues, to oiling issues, and tuning issues, it never seems to go smoothly.

Thank god someone that doesnt have to leg hump every single turbo kit.

This is the bestest turbo kit out! 2 weeks later no no no THIS is the bestest turbo kit out on the market! Cmon people...... OMG Turbo isnt the end all be all.

Dont get me wrong id love a JPC kit but results and simplicity and cost of a paxton on e85 running 9s is damn hard to beat. Less drama than a turbo kit thats for damn sure too.

 

[Jeff's FRC]

There's alot more whipple issues in this forced induction section then there are turbo issues. The jpc turbo kit is cheaper, hellion single kit is cheaper & there's another twin kit builder thats coming out with single kit for just $4995, i forget the name..theres no substitute for free hp. It takes 40-50 hp to spin a blower, not the case with turbos! And you can turn it up at will!

I'd bet there's a lot more Whipple kits on these S550's than any other kit, and yes, there are definitely some issues with belt alignment/tensioner with the Whipple. I've even started a thread about it. There is supposedly a fix coming in the form of a billet tensioner from Whipple shortly. They seem to have excellent customer support and that goes a long way. It's not like they haven't acknowledged the problem and told the community to piss off, exact opposite actually.

I wasn't even aware Hellion built a single kit... The other single kit you're referring to is the Boostworks kit, and it isn't out yet. I'd bet $4,995 is the base price. Add fueling and tuning and the cost rises quickly.

Thank god someone that doesnt have to leg hump every single turbo kit.

This is the bestest turbo kit out! 2 weeks later no no no THIS is the bestest turbo kit out on the market! Cmon people...... OMG Turbo isnt the end all be all.

Dont get me wrong id love a JPC kit but results and simplicity and cost of a paxton on e85 running 9s is damn hard to beat. Less drama than a turbo kit thats for damn sure too.

Seriously. Guy makes a thread about a Whipple and here comes the turbo guys. Can't go wrong with any FI on these cars and it's great to have as many options as we do, but turbos just aren't for everyone. I think the 700+rwhp that the OP will get from a Whipple will be just fine and he'll maybe even be able to sleep at night knowing his blower is robbing a few hp...lol

 

[15dib]

Installed my PC at 36k miles

 

[pro 5.0]

There's alot more whipple issues in this forced induction section then there are turbo issues. The jpc turbo kit is cheaper, hellion single kit is cheaper & there's another twin kit builder thats coming out with single kit for just $4995, i forget the name..theres no substitute for free hp. It takes 40-50 hp to spin a blower, not the case with turbos! And you can turn it up at will!

I don't think its a fair argument to compare a turbo or turbo's to a twin screw, they both have their advantages and disadvantages. In terms of a DD / STREET car turbo will have slower response when you roll into the throttle if they are not spinning in their sweet spot IE lag but you don't have to worry about serpentine belt problems. The twin screw will give you quicker throttle response at pretty much any rpm but you may have issues with the belt system and or pulley's. Granted there is no doubt turbo will make more hp & tq over a twin screw but IMO they are better suited for the race track spool them up and go. It all depends on how you drive if you like to roll race at 60 - 70 mph turbo is the way to go hands down but if you like to drive around town and roll the throttle on in pretty much any gear and want that instant big block feel twin screw is what you want. I think it is irrelevant that the twin screw takes 75 - 100 hp to turn we are only concerned with the NET hp gain at the wheels with either power adder. Last time I checked you can turn up a blower with a simple pulley change.

 

[daltron]

I understand. I was just saying to see what that option covers and see if any Turbo vendor can offer the same option. But I doubt it covers a blown engine due to F/I addition.

Whipple's is for their tune, Stage 1 or 2, 3 year/36K miles for $5K of engine damage.

 

[Z_Rocks]

Whipple's is for their tune, Stage 1 or 2, 3 year/36K miles for $5K of engine damage.

BTW Jon, are you still planning to go turbo or staying with Whipple?

 

[FIVE_LITER]

After you've installed it then you find out their are turbos that cost the same or less that make more power and torque, that's when its to late!

Fuck off. There's not a turbo kit out there that is as reliable and trouble free as the blowers available for these cars.

 

[VOODOO 6G]

I like turbos and superchargers of all kinds and have had a few of each as well as installed several of each on customers cars. You can not beat the simplicity of a supercharger. They may not be the best for overall power but, simple bolt on with minimal issues.... absolutely!


By the way the fastest cars on the planet still have superchargers......

 

[Omega]

opcorn:

 

[venumous]

This thread seems inexplicably doomed to fly off into the abyss.

OP, your car is still very new. I don't think anyone would be deterred from slapping a blower on (excluding the NA nut swingers).

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