Tuner Details: Driving Mode Changes?

[therealdannye]

STICKY THREAD MAYBE?

Hey guys. As the title implies, I'd like to start a thread that hopefully can clear the air on some confusion I have about tuners and perhaps catch up others who, like myself, haven't tuned their ecos yet. All brands are welcome to participate - the more the merrier (and more knowledgeable)!

I'll try to lay out a decent frame for the questions. **First I'll clarify the difference between transmission modes on the shifter and driving modes on the tab by referring to the first as NT/ST (Normal/Sport Transmission) and the others as NDM/SDM/S+DM (Normal/Sport/Sport+ Driving Mode).


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1. Are you driving a premium with selectable driving modes or baseline eco?

2. Which brand of tuner did you get?
2a. Was your car stock or modded when you tuned it?
2b. Did you order a custom tune because of mods? Detail.

3. When you flashed it, can you specify how it affected each transmission mode - NT/ST?

Premium Only 4. Can you detail how it affected each combination of transmission mode and driving mode?
Example 4a. The car starts in NT/NDM. Did this combination get re-calibrated or did it stay stock? What about NT in any other mode?
Example 4b. If it only changed the car's behavior in ST, what happened to S+DM or Track? Normally, slamming it into ST will default the drive mode to SDM. Does S+DM boost it even further?

5. When getting it custom tuned, did you get a choice on "where" the tune is applied - NT vs ST?

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Feel free to add any extra questions/answers to this thread. I'd like to see tons of information on this in one spot because I swear I only see instructions for hooking up and installing each tuner but zero information on what it does to the transmission modes and driving modes (on premium). And that makes me hesitant because it's $500-600+ for tuner/custom tunes and not thoroughly explained.

Thanks in advance! I'll be checking back frequently.

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[m4udin]

1) Premium Auto
2) Bama X4
2A) Had an Airaid CAI
2B) Bama has a questionnaire you fill out before they tune you so I was able to get my CAI and other things included in my tune.
3) It only affects D mode. Every other mode still drives to factory settings. Shifting points on auto tranny became firmer. Didn't feel like it was having a hard time changing gears anymore on D mode.
4) Only affects D mode. Whenever you leave D mode the tune is not in affect.
5) No. The Bama tune only takes effect in D mode. I've heard some tuners use Sport mode for the tune so the D mode stays the same as factory.

I'm overall happy with my tune. I live in South Florida with high heat and a lot of traffic and average 21.6mpg. I've seen a lot of the guys here though running the Cobb AP with Adam from MAPs' Tune or some of the Unleashed guys posting much better MPG than I'm getting though.

 

[therealdannye]

1) Premium Auto
2) Bama X4
2A) Had an Airaid CAI
2B) Bama has a questionnaire you fill out before they tune you so I was able to get my CAI and other things included in my tune.
3) It only affects D mode. Every other mode still drives to factory settings. Shifting points on auto tranny became firmer. Didn't feel like it was having a hard time changing gears anymore on D mode.
4) Only affects D mode. Whenever you leave D mode the tune is not in affect.
5) No. The Bama tune only takes effect in D mode. I've heard some tuners use Sport mode for the tune so the D mode stays the same as factory.

I'm overall happy with my tune. I live in South Florida with high heat and a lot of traffic and average 21.6mpg. I've seen a lot of the guys here though running the Cobb AP with Adam from MAPs' Tune or some of the Unleashed guys posting much better MPG than I'm getting though.

Perfect! While this is exactly the information I was looking to get, it's also exactly what I needed to know so I can say that BAMA is not in the cards for me. To each their own, but D-mode tuning is a massive turn off for me.

The MPG isn't that bad. Since mine was bought only with dealer miles on it, I've kept the 1st trip odometer un-reset. Lifelong average of 20-21mpg so far. Per tank, I've seen it climb as high as 25mpg but that's with conservative driving. One WOT drops that to 20-22mpg. Haha, there's no way I'll make more than 20 over the life of the car. I just don't drive it like that.

Thanks for responding! Now we just need everyone else to jump in. ;P

 

[Redcruzer]

Sub'd

 

[therealdannye]

Bump! Still looking to fill this out with the other vendors!

 

[therealdannye]

Anyone with a COBB tune from Adam wanna jump in here? Unleashed from Torrie? Livernois? Really hoping I can find a tuner that puts their data into S-mode and not D-mode.

 

[cthomas5714]

Now if I am not mistaken, the cobb access port tunes the whole system and all the driving modes. If you look up the OTS tune from cobb and then go to the notes section it explains what happens with each mode and what the differences are.

 

[therealdannye]

https://cobb.app.box.com/mustang-ecoboost-map-notes

If this is the page you're referring to, then no, it doesn't. I've done about as much legwork as I can to find this information both here in the forums and elsewhere on other sites and have pulled up nothing. Which is why I made the thread to begin with... just this serious lack of data that - to me - is pretty critical. Like, the BAMA tune going straight to D-mode only is an instant "no" for me that I otherwise may have been SOL on if I'd just bought one when I wanted to.

Come 10am, I'm gonna call COBB myself and chat with them. Can't seem to get much from the forums/tuners on this.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

With the LMS tune at least, there is no way you would want the tune to only be in sport mode and have nothing in D mode. You would just never use D. All of the drivability is still there, it is just much faster and holds its power for way longer. Even when stock I found the way the auto shifts in sport mode to be annoying in daily driving. I'm pretty much always in D now.

I don't there is a single tuner who only makes changes to specific drive modes. I'm not even sure if they are able to do that. That being said, I have a tuned auto premium and all of my drive modes still have the same characteristics (snow/wet is still neutered and track mode still turns of traction control and changes shift patterns, etc.). I never feel the need to change modes though, on a cool day it basically feels like I'm driving a GT with a blow off valve lol.

If changing things on the fly is important to you then go with the COBB tuner and they will give you different maps that you can change via the cruise control buttons.

 

[jtmat]

https://cobb.app.box.com/mustang-ecoboost-map-notes

If this is the page you're referring to, then no, it doesn't. I've done about as much legwork as I can to find this information both here in the forums and elsewhere on other sites and have pulled up nothing. Which is why I made the thread to begin with... just this serious lack of data that - to me - is pretty critical. Like, the BAMA tune going straight to D-mode only is an instant "no" for me that I otherwise may have been SOL on if I'd just bought one when I wanted to.

Come 10am, I'm gonna call COBB myself and chat with them. Can't seem to get much from the forums/tuners on this.

I have been in chat on this forum with both Torrie and Adam... have you tried that? They are amazing. They will also answer questions immediately in their respective threads... have you been to those?

I'll have to admit though, I understand SCT and Torrie much better than cobb and adam.

SCT is simple... you load the tune and it runs across all drive modes. Power with no gimmicks.

Cobb and adam sound amazing, but still not sure what you are really buying... they says maps are free, but then you read that a tune is $200+ but a map is a tune... which is it?

 

[EcoSwag1990]

Using SCT to tune the EB seems like making software for windows 10 using windows 7 in my opinion. Anyway, all of tuners add power across the board. When you pay for the tuning from map they give you their tuning plus different maps which I guess are basically different tunes that you are able to switch on the fly as I said above. You guys are making this more complicated than it is.

 

[jtmat]

Using SCT to tune the EB seems like making software for windows 10 using windows 7 in my opinion.

I'm a developer and could not make sense out of Win 10 / 7 comment... built software since the 90s... :tsk:

Not sure why you attempted a hit job on SCT... if you are. Actually, not sure what you are trying to do here. :shrug:

Anyway, all of tuners add power across the board. When you pay for the tuning from map they give you their tuning plus different maps which I guess are basically different tunes that you are able to switch on the fly as I said above. You guys are making this more complicated than it is.

If you read the forums, not all "add power across the board".

Thanks for adding "which I guess". That cleared things up!

 

[EcoSwag1990]

I'm a developer and could not make sense out of Win 10 / 7 comment... built software since the 90s... :tsk:

Not sure why you attempted a hit job on SCT... if you are. Actually, not sure what you are trying to do here. :shrug:




If you read the forums, not all "add power across the board".

Thanks for adding "which I guess". That cleared things up!

Cool story I'm a financial analyst. What I was trying to say is SCT does not appear to be as well suited to the mustang EB ECU as the other tuners on the market and was better on older platforms. I've been following the forum since before the cars started being delivered and I've seen a trend of ppl with the SCT having issues that others do not and relying on increasing boost where others do not. Just an observation though.

Can you specify which tune you believe is not effecting all drive modes?

What does it matter if the different maps are different tunes if you know what each of them is for? The point is that you don't have to pay for each individual one. The $250 is a one time fee

 

[TJP719]

MAP's custom tune is free if you purchase the Accessport from them. If you already have one, it'll cost you.

 

[m4udin]

Can you specify which tune you believe is not effecting all drive modes?

Bama only affects D mode. I emailed them when I heard Unleashed tune ran on all modes and they responded that once you leave basic D the tune is no longer in effect.

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