The writing on the wall

[Sal JC]

I really like the idea of a small displacement high reving turbo V8.

^ I could live with that.

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[FiveLiterDreamer]

^ I could live with that.

It's been done before. Here is an extreme example Ferrari 2.0 V8

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[likeaboss]

Not defending the Obama legislation, but both political parties have participated in steadily increasing CAFE standards to combat rising fuel prices.

It's an area in which people's wallets should speak as to what standard of fuel economy they want their vehicles to have, not government intervention. If I want a car that gets 6mpg but sounds awesome and goes 0-60 in 2 seconds, that's my business. If I'm willing to pay for the fuel and the insurance, and the car itself, that's my business.

Irritates me to no end what politicians will make the boogey man these days. Meanwhile my "ecoboost" F150 gets about 3MPG less than my last Mustang (which I couldn't care less about) but because of the way they can game the EPA numbers it's A-OK to the government. Ugh...

Agreed, and the new CAFE standards are completely unrealistic. They want to raise gas mileage standards then turn around and complain they aren't making as much tax revenue to support roads. In fact the whole gas guzzler tax is nuts because they actually generate the highest tax revenue during use. I'm all for cleaner environments and better efficiency. It just seems like lately we're getting super restrictive laws crammed down our throats. It would be better to standardize on fuel types, optimize the supply chain, and allow for more energy development (coal, nuclear along with "clean energy") to eventually handle high volumes of electric cars.

 

[Spartan]

Agreed, and the new CAFE standards are completely unrealistic. They want to raise gas mileage standards then turn around and complain they aren't making as much tax revenue to support roads. In fact the whole gas guzzler tax is nuts because they actually generate the highest tax revenue during use. I'm all for cleaner environments and better efficiency. It just seems like lately we're getting super restrictive laws crammed down our throats. It would be better to standardize on fuel types, optimize the supply chain, and allow for more energy development (coal, nuclear along with "clean energy") to eventually handle high volumes of electric cars.

Yah this is the sh-t that drives me crazy. They bitch about mileage standards then as we make more efficient cars and they don't make as much tax revenue from gas they have to figure out a way to make it up and screw us more in other taxes (like a mileage tax).

They wouldn't need more revenue if they were efficient but they aren't and the one thing you never see is them asking for LESS revenue or making due with less.

 

[nak302]

Yah this is the sh-t that drives me crazy. They bitch about mileage standards then as we make more efficient cars and they don't make as much tax revenue from gas they have to figure out a way to make it up and screw us more in other taxes (like a mileage tax).

They wouldn't need more revenue if they were efficient but they aren't and the one thing you never see is them asking for LESS revenue or making due with less.

and here i was thinking it only happens here in Australia. the powers that be are obviously global :thumbdown:

 

[LSC5ohh]

The v8 will shrink and gain boost long before it dies. I welcome the idea of a 4.2 9000rpm turbo beast... wrapped in an aluminum body... maybe shed some weight...
Besides, once the world stops choking on the BS that is the electric car, hydrogen will prevail and we can have gobs and gobs of power with only water coming out the tail pipe.

 

[Sal JC]

The v8 will shrink and gain boost long before it dies. I welcome the idea of a 4.2 9000rpm turbo beast... wrapped in an aluminum body... maybe shed some weight...
Besides, once the world stops choking on the BS that is the electric car, hydrogen will prevail and we can have gobs and gobs of power with only water coming out the tail pipe.

& I would definitely buy a hydrogen fuel cell car, crazy torque, no recharging and no emission

 

[Sal JC]

It's been done before. Here is an extreme example Ferrari 2.0 V8

Wow. but it's still a V8.

 

[likeaboss]

Yah this is the sh-t that drives me crazy. They bitch about mileage standards then as we make more efficient cars and they don't make as much tax revenue from gas they have to figure out a way to make it up and screw us more in other taxes (like a mileage tax).

They wouldn't need more revenue if they were efficient but they aren't and the one thing you never see is them asking for LESS revenue or making due with less.

Plus the transportation fund is always the first to get raided to pay for other things.

 

[w3rkn]

OP.. all of what you said will take place in about 7~8years..

After ford comes out with a smaller liter dfi V8... Ford will undoubtedly have a "svo" variant in V6 turbo form long.. before the v8 disappears. You'll see them side-by-side for years before the v8 will fade..

 

[Tim Hilliard]

I am staying out of this one, once political parties are brought into an automotive forum I tend to offend. I actually like the majority on here so I don't want to get banned so I'll sit this one out coach. I do agree with several observations in this post but I look forward to participating in discussions that do not involve the subject of a particular group or party, mainly because it is usually group think and group think is usually very bad for humanity.

 

[stilesg57]

group think is usually very bad for humanity.

Not always though. I don't think humanity is better served by a diversity of opinions on the law of gravity or whether the earth moves around the sun But yeah generally you're right

 

[CornerCarver]

Just following along with the group is particularly bad for science. Facts are facts only because they stand up to every aspect of them always being questioned. Question everything.

I also agree with and respect tim hilliard, a lot of people have thin skin and get hurt too easy. I'd propose that thicker skin and more questioning would improve most aspects of life, but it's better that I end prematurely.

 

[Spartan]

and here i was thinking it only happens here in Australia. the powers that be are obviously global :thumbdown:

Yep. They don't understand more money in the hand of the consumer means a better economy. Your money going to an inefficient government that squanders it only benefits whoever government picks as the winners.

 

[buRNout]

So much truth here and I can tell everyone is biting their tongue because it's much worse than even the things posted so far. So I applaud you guys for keeping it from being party specific which only makes sense because I can't think of a single area of bureaucracy that I think deservs an award, regardless of their association ;and I am not just talking about government. If the V8 dies it will be because common sense died long before it. Yeah, they can make alternate fuel cars that are ridiculously fast but.....that completely ignores the ties that many of us have to these cars and the feelings they invoke. To sad for me to think about so I am moving too another thread.

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