tech pack leather seats: different color options?

[enzo101]

^Ford tried to go in this direction. The Dealership Franchises fought against it and ...here we are now.

Buying a car the way they want to sell it instead of the way we really want it.

If only there was a way to bypass dealers and let the customer order the car they want and have it delivered to them directly.....(cough Tesla cough cough)

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[Cruzinaround]

If only there was a way to bypass dealers and let the customer order the car they want and have it delivered to them directly.....(cough Tesla cough cough)

Yes it was reviewed in detail on another thread...But, Ford did make their attempt to build a very well planned direct buy model with an "in network" of Manufacturer owned dealerships. Circa 2000....

The Franchised Dealerships rallied against it and in light of now actually breaking some interstate commerce laws...they buried it all.


And we can now only buy a canned offering instead of having a build to order format.


Otherwise... If they could... they would sell cars just like Tesla does and in the future how Google and Apple will.

Anyhooo.... you'll either see a few followup comments that are from the pro ADM groupies or the GM's or Salesmen or former ones claiming this is going to become another anti-ADM thread.

 

[enzo101]

Yes it was reviewed in detail on another thread...But, Ford did make their attempt to build a very well planned direct buy model with an "in network" of Manufacturer owned dealerships. Circa 2000....

The Franchised Dealerships rallied against it and in light of now actually breaking some interstate commerce laws...they buried it all.


And we can now only buy a canned offering instead of having a build to order format.


Otherwise... If they could... they would sell cars just like Tesla does and in the future how Google and Apple will.

Anyhooo.... you'll either see a few followup comments that are from the pro ADM groupies or the GM's or Salesmen or former ones claiming this is going to become another anti-ADM thread.

Wait wait wait. There are people that are pro ADM!? Why would someone be all for paying more than the car is worth? Is it to make sure the car is limited to those that are buying it as an investment?

 

[Cruzinaround]

^ mostly defending what they think is capitalism and the right for dealers to charge whatever they want for something they technically don't even own themselves.

it's a deep topic... brings out the worst in some people.

 

[enzo101]

^ mostly defending what they think is capitalism and the right for dealers to charge whatever they want for something they technically don't even own themselves.

it's a deep topic... brings out the worst in some people.

Theres a reason those people, as far as I can tell, don't seem to be on this forum. They don't sound like car people. Sure, in a way dealers have the right o charge as much over and under sticker they want but when you work hard and finally are able to afford such a car just to be told that you can't have the car for sticker, it really brings you down. I say that those dealers that are willing to do the right thing will be rewarded in the end. If you were looking to buy one would you go to a dealer that says 10k over sticker or one that says yeah we can do sticker. But anyway this is a thread about seats so back to the topic at hand.

 

[Grimace427]

Wait wait wait. There are people that are pro ADM!? Why would someone be all for paying more than the car is worth?

Not getting on any side of an argument here, but MSRP doesn't dictate what the car is worth. What the car is worth is dictated solely by the people who actually pay for them.

 

[enzo101]

Not getting on any side of an argument here, but MSRP doesn't dictate what the car is worth. What the car is worth is dictated solely by the people who actually pay for them.

You make a good point.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Not getting on any side of an argument here, but MSRP doesn't dictate what the car is worth. What the car is worth is dictated solely by the people who actually pay for them.

Some would argue that the selling price is based on the people who sell them. Because as a buyer...I don't put the sticker on the window.

1. If it were the Manufacturer we all know the Price.
2. If its a dealership the Sky is the limit
3. If its a personal vehicle the price is subjective

 

[Grimace427]

Some would argue that the selling price is based on the people who sell them. Because as a buyer...I don't put the sticker on the window.

1. If it were the Manufacturer we all know the Price.
2. If its a dealership the Sky is the limit
3. If its a personal vehicle the price is subjective

The asking price is set by the people who sell them, the actual sale price is set by those paying.

If the dealership puts a price that is too high and 10 people show up offering less, there's a good bet the dealership will drop the price eventually.


The Z28 is a good example, though the manufacturer was the one who originally set the price too high.

This begs the question, say there were no more dealers but rather sold directly from Ford and you thought the GT350 price was still too high? Would you pay it?

 

[Cruzinaround]

If the dealership puts a price that is too high and 10 people show up offering less, there's a good bet the dealership will drop the price eventually.


The Z28 is a good example, though the manufacturer was the one who originally set the price too high.

I remember the info on the Z28's...The Dealers adjusted the prices.

Not to jack this thread from the OP... But, Its still not the buyer adjusting the price and changing the sticker....Its all in the hands of the seller.

Even if they perceive there is more interest in the car its a creepy and greedy thing to Put anything other than what the Manufacturer would sell it to me for ...if they could.

 

[Grimace427]

Even if they perceive there is more interest in the car its a creepy and greedy thing to Put anything other than what the Manufacturer would sell it to me for ...if they could.

If that were the case we could never hope for anything under MSRP as well.

But yeah, sorry OP for the threadjack.

 

[Cruzinaround]

If that were the case we could never hope for anything under MSRP as well.

But yeah, sorry OP for the threadjack.

Sure you could...

It's called "end of model year sales" And "must get rid of remaining inventory sales"

Happens every year. Still... if the direct buy model had been adopted back in 1999-2000...there would be a lot less inventory today.

Although for a limited production run specialty vehicle getting MSRP should be what we should expect.... if we could actually buy direct.

 

[obiwandado]

I get what you mean but they don't need to offer an electronics package on the non-R, what you (and many others) want is for the recaros to be an option with the tech package.

Yes! Otherwise we have to pay either 8K for the seats later or have to abandon the back seat, pay for carbon wheels and ceramic brakes.

Don't get me wrong, I want the ceramic brakes, but not the carbon wheels and an additional 8 or so thousand for the sexy cloth Recaro's.

 

[Grimace427]

Yes! Otherwise we have to pay either 8K for the seats later or have to abandon the back seat, pay for carbon wheels and ceramic brakes.

Don't get me wrong, I want the ceramic brakes, but not the carbon wheels and an additional 8 or so thousand for the sexy cloth Recaro's.

Still no confirmation about carbon ceramic brakes.

 

[Bossing]

Still no confirmation about carbon ceramic brakes.

I would not be surprised if CC brakes will be axed for the R whether part of the R pkg or as another option for the R. In fact, due to the cost-benefit quandry I'm almost sure it won't be offered at all... heard this thru the Ford Performance grapevine. ;)

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