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(almost) official confirmation.........

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http://blog.americanmuscle.com/2015-shelby-mustang-is-coming-from-las-vegas-shelby-plant/


There has been confirmation of a post-title 2015 Shelby Mustang coming from the Shelby American Plant! There has been non-stop gossip surrounding the S550 Mustang and what special edition Mustangs will be offered. Saleen showed off their S302 Mustang design, Roush has been releasing pictures of the 2015 Roush Mustang, and Ford has been spotted testing their new Shelby GT350 on the street and on the track. We have now learned of Shelby American offering a post-title 2015 Shelby Mustang.

Insider Details on a 2015 Shelby Mustang
On the teamshelby.com forum, a forum member who is known to be an employee of Shelby American commented on a thread saying, “We are in development on a Las Vegas built ’15 Shelby Mustang.” The same forum member commented again saying that this will be a post-title option from Ford, but that they are working on it now. They are also getting the engine assembly line up and working again so order numbers will be low in the beginning.

What is a Post-Title Vehicle?

A post-title vehicle is a vehicle that has already been manufactured and sold by the dealer to a private party. The private party then takes that vehicle to a third party manufacturer to be modified into a new vehicle package. The Shelby 1000 is an example of a post-title vehicle as it was a Shelby GT500 bought from a Ford Dealership and then upgraded/modified by Shelby American to become a Shelby 1000.

2015 Shelby Engine Details
As of right now there is a lot of unclear information floating around and information that has yet to even be filled in. However, going off what we do know and what Shelby American has done in the past, we can get a grasp on where they are going in the future.

Boosted 5.0 Coyote Motor

When Shelby American offered the GT350 back in 2012 as a post-title option, they went with a boosted coyote motor. A Ford Racing/Whipple blower attached a-top of the 5.0 coyote engine pushed out a very conservative 525 RWHP. Seeing as how this post-title Shelby is similar to the last generation’s GT350, it stands to reason that they will follow the same formula: take what is already there and make it better. Shelby American has applied this same formula to their other post-title vehicles as well, such as the Shelby Super Snake and the Shelby 1000.

Boosted 5.2 Voodoo Motor

When talking Shelby variants, we can not ignore the elephant in the room. Ford is offering their factory Shelby GT350 with a 5.2L Voodoo engine, which begs the question if Shelby American will use the same engine. In one of the comments on Team Shelby, the Shelby American insider commented that people interested in their post-title S550 Mustang should wait until they have details finalized because they will only be upgrading specific Mustangs with specific options.

This draws into question if the normal GT will be available for upgrade from Shelby American. With only specific vehicles/trims available for upgrade, this could mean that they will only be upgrading vehicles like the GT350, similar to what they did with upgrading Shelby GT500′s to Shelby Super Snakes/Shelby 1000.

2015 Shelby Release Date
As of right now, we are waiting on the debut of a 2015/2016 Shelby American Mustang. The first 2015′s have already shipped and are beginning to end up in drive ways around the world. Aftermarket modifiers such as Roush and Saleen have begun taking orders for their vehicles, but have yet to release anything yet. With Shelby American pushing for a 2015/2016 option we should be seeing something soon. Check back frequently as we will be reporting on this as updates come out.
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We're going to be watching them pretty closely after this one but this seems like a pretty good indication that the Shelby's on the horizon. I'm still pretty interested to see what's going to happen with the GT350 and the specs as well!

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Interesting on the boosted 5.2...this is certainly the pink elephant in the room :)
 
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Yep, looking forward to what they come up with :)

Now, if the FPC rumor is true...........are there any flat plane crank engines out there that a boosted? One benefit of a FPC is its ability to rev. Surely sticking a supercharger (or turbos) on a FPC with mean the rev limit is reduced? (I'll admit, I'm no expert here, so happy to be educated :) )

Or, could there be a 5.2 Voodoo version with a traditional cross plane crank?
 

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Yep, looking forward to what they come up with :)

Now, if the FPC rumor is true...........are there any flat plane crank engines out there that a boosted? One benefit of a FPC is its ability to rev. Surely sticking a supercharger (or turbos) on a FPC with mean the rev limit is reduced? (I'll admit, I'm no expert here, so happy to be educated :) )

Or, could there be a 5.2 Voodoo version with a traditional cross plane crank?


The Lotus Esprit used a 3.5L FPC twin turbo V8 and made 350hp back in the late 90's.
 

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The Lotus Esprit used a 3.5L FPC twin turbo V8 and made 350hp back in the late 90's.
And if I remember correctly, the reason it only made 350 was the transmission couldn't handle anymore.
 

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The Lotus Esprit used a 3.5L FPC twin turbo V8 and made 350hp back in the late 90's.
D'oh, of course they did! As an Englishman, you'd think I'd have remembered that!

My biggest concern with the FPC is the sound. The V8 Esprit never really sounded any better than their 4-cylinder turbo. We'll see.

It'll certainly be interesting to see what engine Shelby choose to modify. If I had to guess, it would be the Coyote 5.0. I can't believe Ford would give Shelby a Voodoo motor to play with when they've not even finished development work themselves yet. And it's been stated there has been NO Shelby involvement in the development of GT350 (no real surprise there though).

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From what I've seen Ford will build a GT350 without the Shelby name. So sending a post-title car to Shelby American will net you a "Shelby GT350."
 

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Hmm, I thought about that when you posted what you'd found in the Shelby 50 Years book (still fighting the urge not to read it before Christmas, lol!).........but would Ford really allow that? From a marketing perspective, everyone associates GT350 with Shelby anyway, but if Ford badges it Mustang GT350, it would somehow feel slightly less of a "real" GT350, especially if Shelby then go and stick their badge on it. That would take a bit of getting used to.

Soooooooooo many questions about GT350 it's doing my head in! :headbonk:
 

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D'oh, of course they did! As an Englishman, you'd think I'd have remembered that!

My biggest concern with the FPC is the sound. The V8 Esprit never really sounded any better than their 4-cylinder turbo. We'll see.

Check YouTube for aftermarket exhausts on the Esprit, there are several that sound very very good. Some of those videos were posted in the Voodoo speculation thread as comparison a few months ago.

Hmm, I thought about that when you posted what you'd found in the Shelby 50 Years book (still fighting the urge not to read it before Christmas, lol!).........but would Ford really allow that? From a marketing perspective, everyone associates GT350 with Shelby anyway, but if Ford badges it Mustang GT350, it would somehow feel slightly less of a "real" GT350, especially if Shelby then go and stick their badge on it. That would take a bit of getting used to.

Soooooooooo many questions about GT350 it's doing my head in! :headbonk:


Honestly, I'd rather have a Ford product with a full factory backing than a post-title SAC car. If you spend any time on forums you will find many horror stories on poor build quality, overpriced parts, and very poor support from SAC. A few people have gone on SAC tours and noted very little enthusiasm and product knowledge from the staff at the factory.
 

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Hope it's not as ugly as their S197 GT350. That was one hideous looking car!
 

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