Senior S550 Owners Like Black Wheels?

[Garfy]

Don't feel too bad. If you had taken "Engine Displacement Theory III" in high school, you will recall that virtually every American sourced V8 is rounded up in the displacement number. Sometimes a fraction of a cu/in, other times more. I can't think of any manufacturer ever rounding down. It's the American way ... "If some is good, more is better & too much is just right!!!"

It's funny because the 302 was called 5.0 yet GM had a 301 engine that was correctly labeled as 4.9L. I forgot if it was a Pontiac, Buick or Olds.

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[Ron]

"It's funny because the 302 was called 5.0 yet GM had a 301 engine that was correctly labeled as 4.9L. I forgot if it was a Pontiac, Buick or Olds."

Actually, 4.9L is only 299.02 cu/in so GM was still messin' w/ya. Just an FYI: one liter is 61.0237 cu/in (or simply 61.024). Now you have sumpin' to keep you up to the wee hours of the morning seeing how far off in displacement American V8s really are.

 

[frank s]

Don't feel too bad. If you had taken "Engine Displacement Theory III" in high school, you will recall that virtually every American sourced V8 is rounded up in the displacement number. Sometimes a fraction of a cu/in, other times more. I can't think of any manufacturer ever rounding down. It's the American way ... "If some is good, more is better & too much is just right!!!"

Or you could round your 2.3-liter engine down...

 

[Norm Peterson]

It's funny because the 302 was called 5.0 yet GM had a 301 engine that was correctly labeled as 4.9L. I forgot if it was a Pontiac, Buick or Olds.

In the late 1970s, a 301 was a Pontiac engine. But before that it was what hotrodders called a 283 SBC that had been bored 1/8" over. Basically the same thing as Chevy's 302 that came later, and for a time a fairly popular mod for Tri-Five Chevvies.


The 5.0 designation itself may have come out of the original Trans-Am racing, which limited the ponycar engine displacement to 5.000 liters. IOW, it was a class-legal limit, which any smart racer would try to get close to without going over . . . and which didn't escape the attention of the factories. Anybody's 4" bore x 3" stroke 301.6 CID engine would meet that criterion.

Besides, from a marketing standpoint, 5.0 has a better ring to it than 4.9 (which sounds like "almost there").


Norm

 

[Rapid Red]

Never heard the 301 called 4.9, it was always calle a

In the late 1970s, a 301 was a Pontiac engine. But before that it was what hotrodders called a 283 SBC that had been bored 1/8" over. Basically the same thing as Chevy's 302 that came later, and for a time a fairly popular mod for Tri-Five Chevvies.


The 5.0 designation itself may have come out of the original Trans-Am racing, which limited the ponycar engine displacement to 5.000 liters. IOW, it was a class-legal limit, which any smart racer would try to get close to without going over . . . and which didn't escape the attention of the factories. Anybody's 4" bore x 3" stroke 301.6 CID engine would meet that criterion.

Besides, from a marketing standpoint, 5.0 has a better ring to it than 4.9 (which sounds like "almost there").


Norm

Exactly 283 bumped to 301, spun up fast, motor in a 56, 4 on the floor, 2 X 4 high school hot rod. Often found at the original midnight drags, chrome ave, Miami FL

The Blow Fish shifter bracket, for the Mustang reminds me of the Hurst Competition +

Waiting for the supply chain to catch up demand. I'm sure that will be an improvement.

 

[PoCoBob]

Back to the original question, I'm 62 and hate black wheels. Back when I first started driving most cars came with hubcaps, with a few exceptions only people who bought aftermarket wheels had anything else. Underneath those hubcaps was always a plain black steel wheel. To this day whenever I see a car with black wheels it looks like their hubcaps fell off.

 

[Bulldog9]

Back to the original question, I'm 62 and hate black wheels. Back when I first started driving most cars came with hubcaps, with a few exceptions only people who bought aftermarket wheels had anything else. Underneath those hubcaps was always a plain black steel wheel. To this day whenever I see a car with black wheels it looks like their hubcaps fell off.

This is one thing I like about the rims on the Bullitt. The polished rim, classic 5 spoke and bright lug nuts look great. Not a fan otherwise. I'm trying to save for these this summer. They come in black, gunmetal or silver, all with a bright lip. I'm going to go with the Gunmetal, put PS4 Summer tires on them and put winter tires on the stock rims.

https://carrollshelbywheels.com/product/cs-11

 

[S550_Newbie]

Back to the original question, I'm 62 and hate black wheels. Back when I first started driving most cars came with hubcaps, with a few exceptions only people who bought aftermarket wheels had anything else. Underneath those hubcaps was always a plain black steel wheel. To this day whenever I see a car with black wheels it looks like their hubcaps fell off.

Black wheels are cheap for the auto makers. I see the black wheels especially on chargers and I think police car.

 

[Ron]

"Black wheels are cheap for the auto makers. I see the black wheels, especially on Chargers, & I think police car."

Actually, unpainted aluminum wheels are cheaper. They are cast, machined & coated. Whereas black (or any other color) rims must also be painted. The upside to black rims is that they work w/any color car as they 'blend' w/the tires which visually enhances the OA lines of the car. Silver (or any other non-black) wheels are much more noticeable & can either enhance or detract from the OA lines of the car. This is not an automotive theory, but merely how the human eye works. So, rather than spend a bunch of $$$ on an in-house study, manufacturers just thro on black rims & move on. One other upside to black rims is that they do not show brake dust.

 

[DFB5.0]

I like these, not a black wheel fan, color takes away from the detail of the wheel.

And I don't like bright/chrome on these Mustangs, makes the cars look dated.

I would love a set of those but they are very expensive here in Australia.

And totally agree with chrome wheels on Mustang's, and modern cars in general.

 

[sox3]

I decided to go with a brighter wheel.

 

[Rapid Red]

OA lines....... and what are OA lines ? Yeah brake dust that's a got-cha, coated or painted, and the difference is just curious ? Black wheels look so much better with rock chips. Where as a bright wheel will mask them.

Got to say that's some line, justifying why folks like black wheels.

Just admitt you like black wheel st

I would love a set of those but they are very expensive here in Australia.

And totally agree with chrome wheels on Mustang's, and modern cars in general.

They are on all PP2's standard equitment. Australia you say, I'm currently dismantling and sell off bits of a huge model RR. Have been sending packages to Australia, the shipping time is really something.

Name is Russ works for a real RR, sent me pictures of the land scape. What a beautiful country you live in.

 

[S550_Newbie]

I would love a set of those but they are very expensive here in Australia.

And totally agree with chrome wheels on Mustang's, and modern cars in general.

Chrome and silver baby!

 

[Ron]

"OA lines ... & what are OA lines? Coated or painted ... & the difference is? Got to say that's some line, justifying why folks like black wheels. Just admit that you like black wheels."

OA lines is the car as a whole ... not factoring in things like mirrors, chrome, stripes, etc. Look at the pics in this site. Any Mustang w/black (ebony, dark tarnish, whatever) wheels 'force' you to see the car 1st. Now look at the pics of Mustangs w/silver (or chrome) wheels. The higher the color contrast, the quicker you will see the wheels. This is not an opinion (or 'some line') ... it's just an optical fact. As for 'liking' black wheels, my previous Mustang ('98 GT below) was silver & I opted for silver Cobra rims.

 

[Rapid Red]

OA lines is the car as a whole ... not factoring in things like mirrors, chrome, stripes, etc. Look at the pics in this site. Any Mustang w/black (ebony, dark tarnish, whatever) wheels 'force' you to see the car 1st. Now look at the pics of Mustangs w/silver (or chrome) wheels. The higher the color contrast, the quicker you will see the wheels. This is not an opinion (or 'some line') ... it's just an optical fact. As for 'liking' black wheels, my previous Mustang ('98 GT below) was silver & I opted for silver Cobra rims.

So you don't actually know what OA lines stands for. Just some random gibberish , that only the user thinks has meaning.

Not being a smart ass but come on words mean things .

I will assume OA lines without the ability to attach a definition, is hot air. Used to explain something that does not really exist.

Certainly makes sense to me..

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