S and Sport? What?

[WindveilNJ]

Ok,
So 6 hours into my GT premium. Love it so far. I have a question already. I can flip the switch to put it in Sport. But there is also S as the low gear on the automatic. My sales guy said that was sport also. Do they both mean sport? Do they both change the shift points? Do they work cooperatively? What is the deal? Do they do anything else? In my 911 it magneticly clampsmthe motor to the frame to add stiffness, changes the suspension, the shift point and other stuff as well?

Thanks

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[jasonstang]

S means sport.
The switch is Sport+
The difference is ESP and power steering. S mode simply sharpens the throttle and shift strategy where the Sport+ also turns the steering wheel to Sport mode and have the ESP tuned for sport driving.

 

[ibinubu12]

As noted, Sport is through the shifter, but Sport+ is through the Selectable Driving Mode toggle.

It's also worth noting that only Automatic cars have "Sport" but all Mustangs with Selectable Driving Modes have Sport+.

 

[WindveilNJ]

Is there any advantage to doing both? Putting the car is sport and flipping the switch?:shrug:

 

[HBTD]

In terms of driving experience, I have had my GT premium auto for over a year now, and I cannot tell much difference between S+ with the toggle and S with the stick. Both seem to sharpen the throttle response, and I usually have the steering set in sport anyway. Maybe I haven't pushed it hard enough, but they seem the same to me.

 

[DB23]

Put shifter in S and hit a paddle and you're in full auto mode, you have to do the shifting. I always put the shifter in S when I'm in sport+ or track mode cause I don't love the way the auto shifts in those modes, rather do it myself.

 

[jasonstang]

Is there any advantage to doing both? Putting the car is sport and flipping the switch?:shrug:

I think putting mode in Sport+ overrides the Sport position on the shifter.

 

[WindveilNJ]

I appreciate all the advice

 

[gojensen]

nice - been wondering about the same

 

[tcman54]

Put shifter in S and hit a paddle and you're in full auto mode, you have to do the shifting. I always put the shifter in S when I'm in sport+ or track mode cause I don't love the way the auto shifts in those modes, rather do it myself.

you mean put shifter in S and hit paddles and you're in full manual mode....

 

[Martman GT]

I have a 2015 GT Premium A6, and when I put my shifter selector to "S" my car wont shift unless I use the paddles. When I come to a dead stop the car will reset to 1st gear even if I hadn't shifted down to 1st manually.

I did a small test to see if it would upshift on it's own if I don't shift and it didn't. Don't know if it would just before hitting the rev limiter, but didn't want to wind it out that far just to see if it would shift.

As for the Sport + selector switch, I can't drive my car in normal mode any more. The shift points, and rev matching downshifts just make the car so much more fun to drive. Gas mileage does suffer in S+, but I don't care.

 

[plc268]

I have a 2015 GT Premium A6, and when I put my shifter selector to "S" my car wont shift unless I use the paddles. When I come to a dead stop the car will reset to 1st gear even if I hadn't shifted down to 1st manually.

I did a small test to see if it would upshift on it's own if I don't shift and it didn't. Don't know if it would just before hitting the rev limiter, but didn't want to wind it out that far just to see if it would shift.

As for the Sport + selector switch, I can't drive my car in normal mode any more. The shift points, and rev matching downshifts just make the car so much more fun to drive. Gas mileage does suffer in S+, but I don't care.

Yea, my car gets driven in S+ 99% of the time. Only time I keep it in normal is when it's wet and at night in residential areas. I get ~18.5mpg in S+, but in normal, it'll climb to 22-23mpg.

It's worth it, IMO.

S Mode up shifts fine for me, but I noticed that the car will stay in gear longer before it decides to upshift or downshift when you're off the throttle. S+ seems quicker about deciding when to shift.

I haven't noticed any difference in doing S and S+ at the same time compared to D and S+.

 

[HBTD]

I went out yesterday with the express purpose of seeing if I could detect differences in these modes. From what I could tell, S+ is S+ Regardless of whether the shifter is in D or S. The S+ mode seems to pull a little closer to the redline under hard acceleration than the S does. Everything else seems the same to me.

 

[jasonstang]

Okay so I did a bit of extensive testing last night.
When transmission in S mode and mode selection in normal mode: Faster throttle response, sport shift points and also being able to use paddles without reverting back to automatic mode like in D.
Transmission in D mode and mode selection in sport+ mode: Faster throttle response, sport shift points but when using paddles, it will revert back to automatic mode instead of staying in manual mode.

 

[WindveilNJ]

Thank you all for taking time out to follow up. I really appreciate it. The car is great but being in this community makes it better!

My experimental results were like Jasonstang's. If in S on the shifter, the car stays in full auto until you hit the paddles and then it stays in full paddle shift mode. It does not, in my experience, up or down shift but I doubt it will let you blow the engine. It does reset to 1st gear when you stop.

In S+, it is like most automatic transmissions I have seen in German cars. You can paddle shift but when you stop between shifts for too long, it goes back to fully automatic.

The S+ seems to override having the shifter in S, but I need to do more time in the car to confirm.

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