Question for guys who actually have the the Roush Kit

[engineermike]

The last update fixed it in Drive mode, but not Sport. So it took them months to change one stinkin’ number in the cal so why not take a couple more months to change one more number in it?

 

[UnsatOFGT]

Another dumb question from me but I ordered a Reische 170 degree thermostat. If I install it do I need to account for it in a tune or will it be fine with the Roush Phase 2 tune?

 

[JasinEdward]

When I was at Roush and they were working on my car, they gave me a reason. It doesn't take a while to change the cal, it takes a while to get that cal CARB certified.

 

[TX-Ripper]

Boy wouldn’t it suck if they ignored the fix I just gave them (which is the actual fix for 123 bug) and got a broken calibration carb certified

 

[engineermike]

So they change one number, don’t test it to see if it actually fixes the problem, then go through the trouble of carb certification? That doesn’t make good sense.

 

[Jmtoast]

The last update fixed it in Drive mode, but not Sport. So it took them months to change one stinkin’ number in the cal so why not take a couple more months to change one more number in it?

Its fixed in Drive? Sport isn't fixed, I verified the fuck out that this weekend, after a few successful shifts in sport at 123, but didn't try drive mode.

 

[wazslow]

I guess my question is, are any of these Roush cars actually quick? If we're fighting over 10.5's, somethings wrong.

 

[engineermike]

Its fixed in Drive? Sport isn't fixed, I verified the fuck out that this weekend, after a few successful shifts in sport at 123, but didn't try drive mode.

They lowered the Drive mode shift point to 6550 rpm iirc.

 

[TX-Ripper]

They didn’t fix it in normal drive mode they lowered sixth gear shift 6550

 

[Jmtoast]

They didn’t fix it in normal drive mode they lowered sixth gear shift 6550

 

[Stymee]

IMHO, the only reason to run a 18-20 Roush kit is to have the warranty, if that means growing pains to finally get a cal correct so be it, the powers there to run 10’s and after they fix it quite a few A10 guys r gonna go 10’s on a warranty cal even in AZ

However if your gonna tune a blower car, knowing what I know now I’d add opg/cs and the Whipple Stage II along with thier bigger HE

 

[AZ18yote]

even in AZ

Dammit! :-D

 

[TonyHawk]

Its fixed in Drive? Sport isn't fixed, I verified the fuck out that this weekend, after a few successful shifts in sport at 123, but didn't try drive mode.

The 123 exists in drive, sport and sport+ at least.

 

[brucelinc]

However if your gonna tune a blower car, knowing what I know now I’d add opg/cs and the Whipple Stage II along with thier bigger HE

Joel, that is a reasonable approach. While I could have afforded a tuner kit, custom tune, opg/cs and the suspension and driveline upgrades to make it safely hook, I felt it was overkill for what I was looking for and not a good value for me. The fact is that in my area, it is nearly impossible to take advantage of any more power on the street than the Roush kit offers. The Roush tune, in spite of having some quirky things on the logs, offers excellent drivability and pretty strong performance. It is quite competitive with stock Hellcats, ZL1s or GT500s.

I view the Roush kit as an intermediate step between stock and the more aggressive tuned and more heavily modded kits. A stock A10 GT will run 11.9-12.4 depending upon DA and track prep. A tuned Whipple with reasonable supporting mods will probably run high 9s to low 10s. The stock Roush is in the 10.8-11.2 range. Since my car is mostly street driven and only sees the strip a few times a year, I am happy with the Roush kit and wouldn't get enough extra enjoyment out of a high 9 second car to justify the cost, time, loss of warranty and risk of breakage.

 

[Stymee]

Joel, that is a reasonable approach. While I could have afforded a tuner kit, custom tune, opg/cs and the suspension and driveline upgrades to make it safely hook, I felt it was overkill for what I was looking for and not a good value for me. The fact is that in my area, it is nearly impossible to take advantage of any more power on the street than the Roush kit offers. The Roush tune, in spite of having some quirky things on the logs, offers excellent drivability and pretty strong performance. It is quite competitive with stock Hellcats, ZL1s or GT500s.

I view the Roush kit as an intermediate step between stock and the more aggressive tuned and more heavily modded kits. A stock A10 GT will run 11.9-12.4 depending upon DA and track prep. A tuned Whipple with reasonable supporting mods will probably run high 9s to low 10s. The stock Roush is in the 10.8-11.2 range. Since my car is mostly street driven and only sees the strip a few times a year, I am happy with the Roush kit and wouldn't get enough extra enjoyment out of a high 9 second car to justify the cost, time, loss of warranty and risk of breakage.

I see it exactly the way you do too buddy, once you guys get this last fix there will be no reason to custom tune it, you’ll still have a warranty and you guys will all run 10’s

The Roush P2 is a great kit