Procharger Stage 2 Install

[Nemesys]

We have no plans to "retrofit" this item at this time.
Since there is no issue at the stock power/boost levels.
(when properly installed, with no "dent" placed in the tube)

"When properly installed", to be fair, having to hack up and trim stuff out of the box isnt really what I consider high quality for the amount of money you spend. You guys should have two different rubber inlets like the one you sent. One pretrimmed for the race valve and one for non race valve applications.


After all this isnt an ebay turbo kit where you would expect that type of "fitting".

But whats done is done I guess. And I appreciate the customer service team over the phone for taking care of my issues promptly.

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[z06psi]

My thing is also this.

PC found a fix. Leaves it to us to fit, and then can't even post where they got it from?

PC, so how much if I want one from you? Waiting for the upcharge.

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[Process]

My thing is also this.

PC found a fix. Leaves it to us to fit, and then can't even post where they got it from?

PC, so how much if I want one from you? Waiting for the upcharge.

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Shouldn't be an upcharge. Free fix.

 

[z06psi]

Oh I agree but they stated they are not going to do that. I know where to get the hose from but this is real shitty.

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[gqneon]

Come on, now, the total blower kit for mine with injectors and jms fuelmax with all black powder coating done at PC was only $7,770.75. So what if one of the critical parts had to be redesigned to prevent repeatable system failure and will be different going forward for paying customers? It couldn't possibly affect any of us who have the fail prone part that just bought it, right? I mean, as stated exhaustively by PC, corvettes don't do it and these slip right on when installed by professionals, not us. Even though theyre at stock levels which have lower boost levels. I've learned a lot with this purchase, I can tell you that.

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[gqneon]

I just ordered an air-raid 3.5" elbow, correct size 3.75" to 3.5" silicone reducer to transition it from the blower inlet to the 90 degree air-raid piece, some 3.5" silicone coupler hose to retrofit it to the stock PC pipe to the air filter, and t-bolts to keep it all where it belongs even though the t-bolt might not fit the SC inlet for clearance issues. If so I'll reuse the worm clamp there. That's my backup plan B if the retrofit plan A Ebay hose isn't rigid enough to withstand the vacuum.

Retrofit plan A, $17.

Retrofit Plan B, $60.

Knowing PC has the solution but doesn't intend to retrofit existing customers?
Priceless.

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[ProChargerTECH]

That's awesome customer service!!!!

Sigh............

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Considering the few that have had issues, account for about 1% of sales.
(Maybe less) And 0% of stock systems, at stock boost levels, there is no reason for a retrofit.

We have no issue making the change as a running change going forward to help the possible issue on those running elevated boost levels.
(However it seems not pushing in the tube with the race valve, eliminates most of the issue, without a tube change)

Man we would love to, but its not different then Ford not being able to give all previous customers a new coyote engine, each time they come out with one that makes more HP.

 

[Process]

Considering the few that have had issues, account for about 1% of sales.
(Maybe less) And 0% of stock systems, at stock boost levels, there is no reason for a retrofit.

We have no issue making the change as a running change going forward to help the possible issue on those running elevated boost levels.
(However it seems not pushing in the tube with the race valve, eliminates most of the issue, without a tube change)

Man we would love to, but its not different then Ford not being able to give all previous customers a new coyote engine, each time they come out with one that makes more HP.

You're also not getting feedback from people not on forums. I can tell you for certain, many shops have started to bandaid the procharger kits.

 

[z06psi]

Point <--------Procharger


Your post is apple and oranges

 

[z06psi]

If Ford had a defect then they would recall.

Would you like me to send your kit back to you?

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[gqneon]

Considering the few that have had issues, account for about 1% of sales.
(Maybe less) And 0% of stock systems, at stock boost levels, there is no reason for a retrofit.

We have no issue making the change as a running change going forward to help the possible issue on those running elevated boost levels.
(However it seems not pushing in the tube with the race valve, eliminates most of the issue, without a tube change)

Man we would love to, but its not different then Ford not being able to give all previous customers a new coyote engine, each time they come out with one that makes more HP.

I love being part of that 1%. I went with the proflow valve on your recommendation, and don't have the RaceValve pushing in on the hose. The angle of the bend of the stock inlet hose to the air filter strains the hose to some extent flattening it out already. I can completely see that hose restricting towards higher boost.

So even though I'm running the 10# pulley specced by PC in the kit you sent me, if my hose is collapsing, it's the nature of the beast and retrofit wouldn't apply to what you just provided me, correct?

And it is ABSOLUTELY NOT THE SAME as getting a new motor each time there's a new part that gives it more power. It IS EXACTLY THE SAME as a part that fails on a new Mustang that gets across the board replacement for customer satisfaction.

I've been fairly objective, now it's getting a little closer to home with me.

 

[gqneon]

New elbow from eBay arrived. Pretty rigid construction actually particularly in the bend. Not going to try it until the weekend when I have plenty of time to tear the front end apart and retrofit everything to see how it goes. Might wait until my airraid stuff and new joiners arrive to be able to hot swap all of it around. Probably the smart plan, really. Just thought I'd show some initial pics of what is out there since I bought one to see.

3.75" on one side for the sc inlet (no wrestling match between man, physics, and improper sizing), 3.5" on the other to connect to the air filter piping and t for the pcv.

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[Nemesys]

Ive noticed the stock hose also VERY malleable when hot, and the temps do get hot on the PC. WIth that being said, I would hate to cut inlet air at such a high RPM on the impeller and shut it completely. Who knows what damage that could cause to the headunit.

 

[gqneon]

Ive noticed the stock hose also VERY malleable when hot, and the temps do get hot on the PC. WIth that being said, I would hate to cut inlet air at such a high RPM on the impeller and shut it completely. Who knows what damage that could cause to the headunit.

Do you mean the stock hose doing it, my retrofit parts, or just in general?

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[ProChargerTECH]

If Ford had a defect then they would recall.

Would you like me to send your kit back to you?

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Recalls are safety driven.
Then there are TSB's
Then there are warranty issues

Ok my example was bad, because when Ford makes changes its called.
"Model Year Updates"

We don't have "Model years" because our products stick around for years.
Over the years we may change and evolve the systems to make them better.
Just as we make better blowers each year. Its progress. (no different than any manufacture)

Again, our kit is designed for our HO system, and STG2 system.
Both of which the inlet tube works 100% when installed correctly.
And our boost levels are used.

SO yes, for those of you that turned them up.
We now have a different tube that will support that.
(No searching the net, no trial and error, etc)

And AGAIN, the main issue seems to be related to race valve installs, that do not have the valve tucked under the radiator support, and push on the inlet.

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