PP2 Parts?

[Ed M]

Why do you want to replicate a PP2 in the first place?

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[jake_zx2]

Outside of the wheels & tires, it has unique Magneride dampers and springs, unique front knuckles, and unique EPAS and abs tuning.

Pretty sure the front knuckles are the same as the PP1 with magride... they both share their hub with the GT350, but use the GT ball joints

The replica PP2 wheels are about $1200-1300. The knuckles can probably be bought from FordParts. Ford sells a Spring/Strut package that is one step over PP2 for under 1K that includes the Magneride tune. Really the only part that would be hard would be the ABS/EPAS/Stability control. Which may partly just be some control module swaps or flash.

If I did the reverse I'd still have to get a GT350 IM, TB and intake. Also not really able to get the Green aftermarket without a few grand.

Source for this spring/strut combo? Magride dampers alone cost a few grand. I've seen a magride calibration offering from FP for just under a grand, but not a full suspension kit. And yes, you'd need new modules for the ABS/EPAS/Stability, and I don't even know where you'd be able to start with that one. On the flip side, FP does sell a kit to add all the bullitt parts to a GT, and the green can be had in the form of a wrap

Also, to answer your question from earlier, the steering ratio isn't any different.

 

[foxcoupefan]

The replica PP2 wheels are about $1200-1300. The knuckles can probably be bought from FordParts. Ford sells a Spring/Strut package that is one step over PP2 for under 1K that includes the Magneride tune. Really the only part that would be hard would be the ABS/EPAS/Stability control. Which may partly just be some control module swaps or flash.

If I did the reverse I'd still have to get a GT350 IM, TB and intake. Also not really able to get the Green aftermarket without a few grand.

Well it sounds like you have answered your own questions and you should probably move forward with your build.

What I was saying was a 91/93E85 tune would put base GT numbers over a Bullitt power wise easily for very little money. I wasn't saying putting on Bullitt parts would be inexpensive; I stated making the same power as a Buillitt would be simple and inexpensive as opposed to building a car into PP2 specs which would be extremely costly unless you try to build something similar from aftermarket and FP parts.

I think you are missing the point; you were asking about a PP2 parts list, not aftermarket.

Aftermarket wheels are not PP2 wheels. To get a similar square set up like the PP2 car offers, you would have to purchase some PP2 reps in 11s, go with 3" plus long front studs and a 15mm to 20mm spacer for clearance so there is more added cost to your PP2 suspension build. You will run in to issues running a 305 on the front unless you run a spacer or your use the PP2 wheel specs. To my knowledge those specifications are not available on any aftermarket PP2 style wheels. PP2 wheels are 10.5" front with a 24mm offset and 11" rear with 48mm offset just to be clear.

Just the tires alone are over 450.00 to 500.00 each from most places. Once again, it would be much more costly than just trying to squeak out another 20 or so HP out of a PP2 .If you just wanted to hop up your suspension to handle well, there are many other avenues to take than trying to copy a PP2 package.


Good luck with your build and keep us posted.

 

[foxcoupefan]

Pretty sure the front knuckles are the same as the PP1 with magride... they both share their hub with the GT350, but use the GT ball joints


Also, to answer your question from earlier, the steering ratio isn't any different.

The front hubs bolt onto the suspension upright using 4 bolts, base ones ride on a shaft coming off the upright secured by a large nut. The hubs are GT350 parts that originally were used on Lincoln MKS limousines. But yes, the same as PP1 MagneRide setups.

The mechanical side of the steering is the same; ratio. However, the EPAS is tuned/calibrated to different specs.

 

[Schwerin]

PP2
Front struts https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/strut-suspension-8683033-1
Engine Mounts: https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/insulator-assy-6470805-1

 

[Snakes&horses]

Op, I think a PP2 bullitt would look awesome. DH green is a gorgeous color and the PP2 package is pretty impressive. Blending the two sounds like a cool idea. It may or may not make sense to stay true to factory ford parts but however you get there I say do it

 

[foxcoupefan]

PP2
Front struts https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/strut-suspension-8683033-1
Engine Mounts: https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/insulator-assy-6470805-1

Those are not PP2 struts. PP2 runs a track calibrated Magneride set up. Those are basic factory NON MagneRide replacements with no performance enhancement whatsoever.


Since you have Magneride, I would just ad a set of FP swaybars, IRS lockout, maybe some GT350 factory springs and call it a day. Unless you plan on doing some open track or corner carving every weekend, that would be more than a capable car.

 

[Schwerin]

Those are not PP2 struts. PP2 runs a track calibrated Magneride set up. Those are basic factory NON MagneRide replacements with no performance enhancement whatsoever.


Since you have Magneride, I would just ad a set of FP swaybars, IRS lockout, maybe some GT350 factory springs and call it a day. Unless you plan on doing some open track or corner carving every weekend, that would be more than a capable car.

If you do a search for Tremor package" they come up as specific to the Tremor package.

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