PP1 Aftermarket Wheels Offset

[Fastfwd]

I'm not sure I'm going to do this, but I would like to at least know about it in the event I ever decided to. I'm considering running the stock wheels as a 'winter' set and the possibility of picking up a set of aftermarket wheels that may be a much lighter set for the stock summer only tires I took off the car when new. The theory being that those heavy stock wheels may be more durable and better suited for winter driving and I don't care about blowing $100 twice a year to mount summer only/all season tires. You could spend $200+ a year doing that if you wanted to run the sticky tires and risk your wheels each time in the process of mounting them. Plus, I would much rather just roll out the floor jack and swap my own summer tires on whenever I feel like it. Now that I feel like I've justified it in my mind for the rest of the world.....

I'm curious if there is any reason for concern of making sure the offset of the aftermarket wheels is within certain parameters? I honestly just don't know enough about this topic to make an informed decision and I primarily don't want to introduce an imbalance to however the car is setup from the factory with all of the high tech stability management, traction control, etc.

I'm not talking about anything extreme, but it might be nice to add a touch of depth to the rear wheels if a little less offset can achieve that without upsetting the balance of the setup. The factory wheels really downplay the staggered wheels/tires and I might like to see a subtle hint that those rears are a bit larger.

Also, I'm sure this depends highly on the specific wheel in question, but I'm curious how well lighter wheels fair on these S550 Mustangs? I guess I'm thinking the Mustang might be a bit heavier than some cars certain wheels might be more geared toward. Anything to specifically avoid? From Tirerack I sort of like these Enkeis http://enkei.com/shop/tuning/raijin/ To me, they look a lot like the PP2 wheels. Probably easier to clean. Not sure how well Japanese wheels would be accepted on an American car, but they look pretty stock to me and they are super light by comparison - 10lbs less each. Not quite as wide as stock though. Otherwise, Tirerack has these American Racing wheels https://www.americanracing.com/wheel/44835/ar927-barrage They just don't look any easier to clean. In fact, they might be worse and I'm not sure about those spokes protruding from the lip of the rim from a curb rash standpoint.

Thanks!

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[choate]

Holy long post Batman. You want to know the offset that would look good and work well on aftermarket wheels right? You’ll get all kinds of answers. The best way to figure it out is either ask an aftermarket vendor on here like MRR or look at websites that offer popular wheel combos like the GT350R reps etc. About 32 front and 48-50 rear with a 275 front tire and 305 rear on 10” wide fronts and 11” wide rears. That’s the most common. 25mm spacers on your stock PP wheels look about perfect to me too if you like those wheels

 

[Fastfwd]

Holy long post Batman. You want to know the offset that would look good and work well on aftermarket wheels right? You’ll get all kinds of answers. The best way to figure it out is either ask an aftermarket vendor on here like MRR or look at websites that offer popular wheel combos like the GT350R reps etc. About 32 front and 48-50 rear with a 275 front tire and 305 rear on 10” wide fronts and 11” wide rears. That’s the most common. 25mm spacers on your stock PP wheels look about perfect to me too if you like those wheels

Apologies. I probably forced my justification onto the board for another audience beyond here and it muddled up the question.

I'm not as interested in what looks good as much as what looks just a little 'better' (matter of opinion) and doesn't mess up the geometry of the suspension and the systems involved with stability, traction, etc.

I would define 'better' as maybe just a touch less offset in the rear to sort of compliment the staggered setup a bit more possibly. It's not all that important to me honestly, but almost every option of aftermarket wheel will have a different offset than the factory wheels. So, I'm curious if there is concern for how much you can deviate before it begins to cause a real problem.

On the extreme end I don't want to end up with a problem like the dudes with the wheels sticking out a foot from under the fenders however they manage that and you see them on the side of the road broken down.

 

[choate]

Apologies. I probably forced my justification onto the board for another audience beyond here and it muddled up the question.

I'm not as interested in what looks good as much as what looks just a little 'better' (matter of opinion) and doesn't mess up the geometry of the suspension and the systems involved with stability, traction, etc.

I would define 'better' as maybe just a touch less offset in the rear to sort of compliment the staggered setup a bit more possibly. It's not all that important to me honestly, but almost every option of aftermarket wheel will have a different offset than the factory wheels. So, I'm curious if there is concern for how much you can deviate before it begins to cause a real problem.

On the extreme end I don't want to end up with a problem like the dudes with the wheels sticking out a foot from under the fenders however they manage that and you see them on the side of the road broken down.

What I mentioned won’t cause you any problems at all. It’ll be slightly tucked into the fender wheels but will look great and drive just like stock. Check out LMR.com too. They’re good at providing what the customer wants/needs. They wouldn’t offer some crazy offset combination. If it’s on there for your car it’ll fit, look aggressive but work and won’t negatively affect anything

 

[Fastfwd]

What I mentioned won’t cause you any problems at all. It’ll be slightly tucked into the fender wheels but will look great and drive just like stock. Check out LMR.com too. They’re good at providing what the customer wants/needs. They wouldn’t offer some crazy offset combination. If it’s on there for your car it’ll fit, look aggressive but work and won’t negatively affect anything

Thanks for your input on it.

 

[choate]

U looking at 19s or 20s?

 

[Fastfwd]

U looking at 19s or 20s?

I've got the 19" stock summer tires already. Probably just some relatively affordable 19" wheels to mount those on. I know 20" would open up the selection of wheels and tires quite a bit though.

 

[choate]

Makes sense. I wouldn’t go any wider than a 10” rear wheel with your stock tires then. Just FYI. You could always just keep your PP wheels and tires, put 25mm spacers on them and buy a set of all season take offs for winter unless you truly need an actual snow tire. From my experience a rear wheel drive car shouldn’t ever be driven in any snow although I’ve done it many times. I won’t anymore. Have an old 4x4 truck for that

 

[TicTocTach]

I'm not sure I'm going to do this, but I would like to at least know about it in the event I ever decided to. I'm considering running the stock wheels as a 'winter' set and the possibility of picking up a set of aftermarket wheels that may be a much lighter set for the stock summer only tires I took off the car when new. The theory being that those heavy stock wheels may be more durable and better suited for winter driving and I don't care about blowing $100 twice a year to mount summer only/all season tires. You could spend $200+ a year doing that if you wanted to run the sticky tires and risk your wheels each time in the process of mounting them. Plus, I would much rather just roll out the floor jack and swap my own summer tires on whenever I feel like it. Now that I feel like I've justified it in my mind for the rest of the world.....

I'm curious if there is any reason for concern of making sure the offset of the aftermarket wheels is within certain parameters? I honestly just don't know enough about this topic to make an informed decision and I primarily don't want to introduce an imbalance to however the car is setup from the factory with all of the high tech stability management, traction control, etc.

I'm not talking about anything extreme, but it might be nice to add a touch of depth to the rear wheels if a little less offset can achieve that without upsetting the balance of the setup. The factory wheels really downplay the staggered wheels/tires and I might like to see a subtle hint that those rears are a bit larger.

Also, I'm sure this depends highly on the specific wheel in question, but I'm curious how well lighter wheels fair on these S550 Mustangs? I guess I'm thinking the Mustang might be a bit heavier than some cars certain wheels might be more geared toward. Anything to specifically avoid? From Tirerack I sort of like these Enkeis http://enkei.com/shop/tuning/raijin/ To me, they look a lot like the PP2 wheels. Probably easier to clean. Not sure how well Japanese wheels would be accepted on an American car, but they look pretty stock to me and they are super light by comparison - 10lbs less each. Not quite as wide as stock though. Otherwise, Tirerack has these American Racing wheels https://www.americanracing.com/wheel/44835/ar927-barrage They just don't look any easier to clean. In fact, they might be worse and I'm not sure about those spokes protruding from the lip of the rim from a curb rash standpoint.

Thanks!

Just as a datapoint, another member posted pics of his Oxford White / Barrage combo:
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...-wheels-and-tires.15709/page-357#post-2419106

I like the Enkei wheels but for similar money I would look at Apex or MMR to see what they have for what you want to do. Those folks, as well as LMR and CJPP have plenty of options for great fits.

I kept my original PP wheels to use with summers or stickies at some point in the future, and I'm running wider wheels with all-season tires year round.

 

[Paul@PKAUTODESIGN]

Reading through your post.

19" is a good spot to go with, I would say a wide selection of MRR wheels are available and fit properly on the platform.

 

[Fastfwd]

Ok, I apologize for posting without knowing very much about this, but I guess I hoped I wouldn't have to dive too deep into researching it just to get a decent set of wheels for the summer tires that didn't cost a fortune and didn't throw my stock setup too far out of whack.

So, that said, I've seen these advertised on here and to be perfectly honest I am just not so picky that I can see why these aren't all that I need. They might even be the best bargain I could hope to find in a lightweight/strong wheel option. I was considering the GT350 replica 10 spoke style as an option that I really didn't at first think were very good looking, but I started to see the appeal with ease of cleaning and showing off the brakes, etc.

https://www.mrrwheels.com/collections/wheels/products/m600

These are apparently Ford GT replica styled wheels that from what I can tell might be a rather trendy style - Vossen has a brand new wheel that is very similar. 5 split/spoke design, etc (much more tricked out detail and more expensive however). I think I can live with matte/satin black even if the car has a sort of gloss theme going.

The catch on these is they are only offered in 19X10 for my 255/40 front stock tires. I've seen the offset (35mm) is claimed to clear the Brembos on other websites. On the plus side I might be able to opt for a tad wider tires when it's time to replace these. Will the 10" rims make these 255/40's look stupid or will they stretch them out to fit pretty decent?

Basically, as stated, I apologize, but if anyone who knows more about this and cares to chime in I would appreciate it. I've got too much going on to get a wheel/tire engineering degree on the side just to make a decision on this.

If I go with the 11" rears will that introduce any problems I should be aware of? Should be about the same stretch on those 275/40s out back as the fronts, huh? Would the 24mm offset cause any problems in the rear? 50mm would have to look pretty odd, huh? Pretty flat?

Thanks!

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