Power Pack 1 + Clutch Spring

[JustaMustang]

Hey guys looking forward to buying the Ford Power Pack 1 soon. I read up extensively and can't seem to figure out if I'm going to have a problem with the no lift to shift feature and a Steeda clutch spring? AFAIK the no lift feature can't be disabled. Thanks in advance for any input.

Also, I read that after PP1 or 2, the tires want to break loose all the time in 1st and 2nd. Is there some truth to that? I love the idea of all the extra TQ especially for freeway merging and passing but I also don't want an uncontrollable pony lol

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[white15gt]

No lift shift is NOT able to be shut off. Most people claim that their replacement spring doesn't cause an issue, but when I talked to FPP, they said they get many calls from people who claim that the car misses/stubmbles above 5k RPM, which ends up being the car going into lo-lift shift because the spring doesn't fully push the pedal up against the top clutch switch (the one that triggers cruise control). That switch is incredibly sensitive, because it is the switch that shuts off cruise control.

 

[Angry50]

clutch spring helps pedal feel is all should impact any function. if youre on some stock pirellis you should be spinning already and more power will just increase that. i wouldnt call it uncontrollable

 

[Angry50]

No lift shift is NOT able to be shut off. Most people claim that their replacement spring doesn't cause an issue, but when I talked to FPP, they said they get many calls from people who claim that the car misses/stubmbles above 5k RPM, which ends up being the car going into lo-lift shift because the spring doesn't fully push the pedal up against the top clutch switch (the one that triggers cruise control). That switch is incredibly sensitive, because it is the switch that shuts off cruise control.

if this was the case i would think we would hear more issues about people not being able to use cruise control. not to mention the number of people that remove the spring completely

 

[white15gt]

if this was the case i would think we would hear more issues about people not being able to use cruise control. not to mention the number of people that remove the spring completely

I'm just going by what Ford Performance said. No Lift Shift activates much faster on the switch than cruise control. I tend to believe what they say, considering they made the calibration and all...

 

[Angry50]

I'm just going by what Ford Performance said. No Lift Shift activates much faster on the switch than cruise control. I tend to believe what they say, considering they made the calibration and all...

Im not saying this is the case im just surprised there isnt more issues but maybe because no one is clicking the cruise on while at high RPM?

 

[DukeGaGa]

No lift shift is NOT able to be shut off. Most people claim that their replacement spring doesn't cause an issue, but when I talked to FPP, they said they get many calls from people who claim that the car misses/stubmbles above 5k RPM, which ends up being the car going into lo-lift shift because the spring doesn't fully push the pedal up against the top clutch switch (the one that triggers cruise control). That switch is incredibly sensitive, because it is the switch that shuts off cruise control.

I’m not getting this, why does no lift shift has anything todo with the clutch spring? Also, the clutch spring is depressed when you are NOT on the clutch, so what this means is that when you’re on the clutch, the spring can’t press on some button because it’s not stiff enough? I’m so confused right now. If you can draw up a simple illustration that’d be nice.

 

[NightmareMoon]

if this was the case i would think we would hear more issues about people not being able to use cruise control. not to mention the number of people that remove the spring completely

Well just cause you didnt hear it doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

When I had my clutch spring removed I DID have issues with cruise control. The Steeda spring has been working for me, but that switch is sensitive.

 

[DukeGaGa]

Well just cause you didnt hear it doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

When I had my clutch spring removed I DID have issues with cruise control. The Steeda spring has been working for me, but that switch is sensitive.

Could you point to me where the switch is? I also have the steeda spring, want to make sure it's not interfering with any functions of the car.

Edit: just talked to ford performance, they neither confirmed nor denied the clutch spring can cause problems, only said it "they can see why it might". But that's enough for me to start thinking about putting back the stock springs. I'd still like to know which switch you guys are talking about though, only switch I remember seeing is the one for starting up the car that's behind the clutch, so when you press the clutch down, the car can be started. Also confirmed with them that no-lift shifting is a feature built-in to all 2018 manuals, so I'll try that after making sure the whatever switch is still working as it should.

 

[Bowen_Racing]

Could you point to me where the switch is? I also have the steeda spring, want to make sure it's not interfering with any functions of the car.

Edit: just talked to ford performance, they neither confirmed nor denied the clutch spring can cause problems, only said it "they can see why it might". But that's enough for me to start thinking about putting back the stock springs. I'd still like to know which switch you guys are talking about though, only switch I remember seeing is the one for starting up the car that's behind the clutch, so when you press the clutch down, the car can be started. Also confirmed with them that no-lift shifting is a feature built-in to all 2018 manuals, so I'll try that after making sure the whatever switch is still working as it should.

So you are saying 2018s have no-lift shifting built in from Ford? As in keeping the gas pedal to the floor while you clutch in and out to shift gears?

 

[DukeGaGa]

So you are saying 2018s have no-lift shifting built in from Ford? As in keeping the gas pedal to the floor while you clutch in and out to shift gears?

Yes, it was in one of the media news release somewhere but I can't find any info on it in the manual.

 

[thelostotter]

I have have the PP2 and have had no issues with the clutch assist spring removed.

 

[Mike's Mustang]

Could you point to me where the switch is? I also have the steeda spring, want to make sure it's not interfering with any functions of the car.

Edit: just talked to ford performance, they neither confirmed nor denied the clutch spring can cause problems, only said it "they can see why it might". But that's enough for me to start thinking about putting back the stock springs. I'd still like to know which switch you guys are talking about though, only switch I remember seeing is the one for starting up the car that's behind the clutch, so when you press the clutch down, the car can be started. Also confirmed with them that no-lift shifting is a feature built-in to all 2018 manuals, so I'll try that after making sure the whatever switch is still working as it should.

There is a button that this piece of metal engages when the clutch is not depressed.

 

[DukeGaGa]

There is a button that this piece of metal engages when the clutch is not depressed.

Awesome, thanks! I'll get under the dash and check it after lunch.

 

[Mike's Mustang]

Awesome, thanks! I'll get under the dash and check it after lunch.

No problem. It's pretty far up on the clutch arm. I pressed my clutch in while keeping my finger on it. The button extends a pretty good distance before it is fully released. Also, I removed my clutch spring over a year ago and have not had any issues. Though, I have a 2016, which doesn't have no lift shift.

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