Our paddle shifters SUCK!

[Blk2015GT]

the reason hyundai doesn't have it on the veloster turbo because the tranny couldn't even hold the 200hp of the veloster turbo's power over the NAV Veloster....so don't really expect a 430hp car to have it either at the price range.... that's why you only see manual paddle shift cars with no clutch on high end cars and exotics...which is also what is going to cause the manual h pattern transmission to die out.

Same as what I said. It's probably very cheap to get a dual clutch assembly in that only needs to hold 150hp, MUCH more expensive for the part when you start trying to hold 400+hp.

Just like when you upgrade your GT parts to handle a supercharger, they are much much more expensive as the bulkiness/strength goes up due to manufacturing processes needed on the parts.

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[bluebeastsrt]

The only use I've found with the paddles on cars that have them is you can hold a second gear burnout. I never bother with them in day to day driving. I tried to use them at the drag strip and it just slowed the car down.

 

[Khyber]

i think the bigger question is, why do you post in blue? lol

 

[15wile]

I would agree that having a dual clutch transmission would be nice. My wife's Sportwagen has a DSG transmission, and it's very responsive and gives you more "feel" than the automatic. It also holds the gears when in manual mode, something that seems inconsistent in auto Mustangs. Although, ironically, my wife complains that the car is "less mannerly." So that's not always a plus with some folks. Ford has a similar transmission in one of the Fiesta models, I think, and customer complaints about its rougher shifts were many. Dual clutch transmissions aren't as smooth as regular automatics.

Anyway, I'd still like a dual clutch transmission as an option in the Mustang. Ford could keep the Automatic, and offer the dual clutch as an upgrade option for those willing to pay for it. Honestly, I probably would have been one of them. When I had my automatic Ecoboost.. I found the paddles slow and unresponsive. Furthermore, sometimes the car would shift for you anyway, refusing to hold a gear when driving more casually. It was a pain trying to figure out when it would do that and when it wouldn't.

When I switched to the GT, I just went manual. Slower in a line (well, not really, compared to the Ecoboost), but more fun and no more worries about holding gears. Only hurdle now is occasional stop/go traffic in the city, which gets annoying at times. You can't have it all. A good dual-clutch would be a nice compromise, though, so long as it held gears like my wife's car does. I hope Ford offers one sometime in the future.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

i think the bigger question is, why do you post in blue? lol

I think the bigger question is? Why not? I don't feel a burning need to do everything everyone does just because.;) The great thing about living in this country is they give us mustangs and I can do whatever pleases me as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else!:usa:

 

[OppoLock]

I love the discussions labeled about shifters really about transmission and about the way it shifts turns into the material the paddles are made out of and vice versa.

I saw the thread title and assumed it was talking about the paddles in general. That's what stood out to me during a test drive.

 

[Charles147]

The MT-82 is junk and so is the auto...Ahhh, we have something in common.

 

[Khyber]

I think the bigger question is? Why not? I don't feel a burning need to do everything everyone does just because.;) The great thing about living in this country is they give us mustangs and I can do whatever pleases me as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else!:usa:

ok i gotcha

 

[SVTFreak]

The MT-82 is junk and so is the auto...Ahhh, we have something in common.

The auto isn't junk. The auto tuning isn't great. Several companies have it nailed down
There isn't thread after thread about how it's notchy, clunky and what to do to make it better.

 

[15wile]

The MT-82 is junk and so is the auto...Ahhh, we have something in common.

The MT-82 sure is f*cking weird. All those weird-ass noises it makes. The automatic didn't make those. Folks say it's "normal" so I deal, but lol... And the automatic needs better tuning, I can attest to this from the Ecoboost I had for awhile. Get a good tune in there, and it'll run a lot better. Shifting it with the paddles still sucks, but it will at least shift itself well enough for an auto.

 

[Dspec_S550]

I kind of think my auto is shifting just fine

https://www.facebook.com/tony.pawlish/videos/10204662500990954/

links not working.

Tony, did you change your shift firmness parameters on your tuner?

 

[wildsailor]

I took the Mustang in for a warranty paint repairs today and they gave me a base model Hyundai Veloster for a few days. All I can say is Ford and Chevy ought to be ashamed with their paddle shifted autos. The Veloster has a duel clutch and when you hit the shift paddle the crappy little econobox snaps of shifts with authority. My old L99 Camaro SS and my brand new 2015 Mustang GT both have an annoying lag between shifts. It's even more pronounced when using the paddles. Wow. just, wow.:doh:

The 2012+ Focus has a DCT with the 2.0L TiVCT. I drove mine for 3 years and I liked it but..... Ford will likely never do a DCT again. The issue is they marketed it as an 'automatic' and what it is really is an automatically shifting manual. People buy the Focus and opt for the automatic and it feels like a manual that someone else is shifting for you...in other words, it is less than 'buttery' smooth.

Enthusiasts like you would not mind at all but the average driver thinks there is something terribly wrong with this transmission and the warranty is out the roof on the Focus. As a result, I doubt Ford will ever do this again for a mainstream carline.

Now before I get flamed that "VW knows how to do this..." the Focus forum is full of ex-VW drivers that claim the Ford DCT is operating better than the VW Golf. The issue is, in my opinion, with marketing. By calling it an automatic people expect the smoothness they are used to with a torque-converter based automatic. The DCT is pretty good but not that smooth.

 

[crowemag55]

The MT-82 is junk and so is the auto...Ahhh, we have something in common.

Yah, the MT82 and the advent of the paddles sold me on the Auto.. My '11 with MT82 was showing signs of falling apart like so many others of them that I decided to go to the '15.. If Ford have gone back to Tremec, or fully addressed the MT82 problems *and said so*, I might have stayed with a manual...

So far I very much like the new one, so no complaints from me!

 

[Tamadrummer88]

ok i gotcha

I asked him the same question and i basically got a "fuck you, deal with it" answer.

 

[15GTBEN]

I disagree. Ford doesn't need to make sacrifices. If you claim to bench mark the M3. You should be in the same ballgame. I'd be willing to pay more for the best technology out there.

That pretty much was the entire point. If hyundia can offer a duel clutch transmission. Ford should be able to come up with something!.

The Ford Focus comes with a crappy dual clutch. I heard it has been improved for the 2015's.

My 2012 5.0 had the 6R80 and it's a great tranny, I didn't even have the option to get paddle shifters!

Nothing beats the "shift button" that came with the 13-14 stangs

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