New Camaro is a generation ahead

[Jdenkevitz]

MSRP to MSRP is the only fair comparison.

If you get a GTPP for say..32,500 out the door and someone else gets a 1SS for 31,850..does that mean the Mustang was more expensive all along?

No, it means you got a better deal, which can vary wildly.

Not really. MSRP to MSRP is only worthwhile if its the same company with the same incentive structure on that particular platform. Across different companies, MSRP is meaningless in terms of real world actual cost differentials.

Its a recommendation used to associate a certain value field with the end consumer. Different manufacturers have different incentive policies. Some have year round incentives, others do not. When setting MSRP they know what incentives will be baked in, and will offer additional ones to react to demand. Its a sales tactic. Some manufacturers purposefully inflate the MSRP knowing they will have a slew of incentives available. Others do not.

What matters is what is actually paid when making a comparison.

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[BmacIL]

Here is what is very valid regarding value, and it's not MSRP, it's average transaction price. Market average for a 2016 GT PP is almost $2000 under MSRP. Thanks Truecar.

2016 Mustang GT PP base left, 2016 Camaro 1SS manual right

 

[mustang_guy]

Anyone that pays more than invoice OTD is simply paying too much, for any car. Very few vehicles are worth mrsp or near, OTD.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Anyone that pays more than invoice OTD is simply paying too much, for any car. Very few vehicles are worth mrsp or near, OTD.

The 6G Camaro is:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I kid, I kid...

 

[BmacIL]

Added the same for the 1SS. Market average $1800 higher.

Below is for the 1SS with the 8 spd auto.

GT Prem PP market avg. $39,000
2SS market avg. $42,877

 

[ZaneWayne]

So you haven't driven them on the track, but you are confident that you know...

I'm not surprised.

Not a track but back to back on some back roads. My job is fantastic. It's a base manual GT vs my soon to be used 2016 SS.

 

[mustang_guy]

Not a track but back to back on some back roads. My job is fantastic. It's a base manual GT vs my soon to be dead 2016 SS.

Fixed

 

[ZaneWayne]

Fixed

My first one died lol.

 

[mustang_guy]

My first one died lol.

Ah. You bought another eh? Too hard seeing them every day?

 

[GOFAST]

Not really. MSRP to MSRP is only worthwhile if its the same company with the same incentive structure on that particular platform. Across different companies, MSRP is meaningless in terms of real world actual cost differentials.

Its a recommendation used to associate a certain value field with the end consumer. Different manufacturers have different incentive policies. Some have year round incentives, others do not. When setting MSRP they know what incentives will be baked in, and will offer additional ones to react to demand. Its a sales tactic. Some manufacturers purposefully inflate the MSRP knowing they will have a slew of incentives available. Others do not.

What matters is what is actually paid when making a comparison.

I'm sorry, but this makes NO sense.

 

[ZaneWayne]

Ah. You bought another eh? Too hard seeing them every day?

We shall see by the end of the day. I can get this one under 30 OTD, fully loaded 2016 never been titled. Stickers $48,475.

 

[PJR202]

Is there a quick way to identify an SS in the wild? GT's are easy. Look for the 5.0 from the side or the big GT on the back. With camaros all I know to do is strain my eyes trying to see the tiny SS on the deck lid.

 

[ZaneWayne]

Is there a quick way to identify an SS in the wild? GT's are easy. Look for the 5.0 from the side or the big GT on the back. With camaros all I know to do is strain my eyes trying to see the tiny SS on the deck lid.

Bigger front grill. Hood vents.

 

[PJR202]

Bigger front grill. Hood vents.

What about the 5th gens? I've only id'd one 6th gen SS here and it waas by the exhaust first.

 

[1320']

What about the 5th gens? I've only id'd one 6th gen SS here and it waas by the exhaust first.

Gen 5 SS's had the hood vents and a few other smaller front end differences..

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