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There is a big difference in measurable performance. To just jump in a car and drive both on American streets. Average Joe wont "Feel" a ton of difference in every day driving. The numbers don't lie to people who race both.
I felt a pretty measurable difference between the A6 3.15 S550 I test drove and the A8 2016 SS I drove...

However the seat of the pants feeling between a 3.55 car and the SS was less stark.
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...I just can't get over that they put AC vents right in front of the shifter for your hand to freeze off.
This was my least favorite thing when I test drove one, outside of the visibility. You have to turn the fan way up to even feel any on your face because of that location. Very poor design execution.
 

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I felt a pretty measurable difference between the A6 3.15 S550 I test drove and the A8 2016 SS I drove...

However the seat of the pants feeling between a 3.55 car and the SS was less stark.
I drag race often. My experience with the manual and A8 SS that I test drove was. It had a cool exhaust. And still had the same shitty interior and sight lines of the 5th generation Camaro that I traded in on my Mustang. I didn't get this magical vib that others got performance "Feel" wise. Press the gas to hard leaving a light. And both cars spun tires. Exit an on ramp at normal speeds and both cars felt confident. I guess my seat of the pants dyno is not a calibrated as some others.:shrug: But for me nothing is apparent til the cars are line up in some type of completion with timing equipment. A .3-.5 at the drag strip is a huge lead for the camaro. But how many people can say that "felt" like an 11.9 run before they actually get their timeslip and be dead on? Apposed to a 12.2 run? I can't feel a .4 second difference in a car. I've made 500 passes in most of the time. I cant really comment to much on handling. Because I'd probably drive both cars into a field.
 

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I drag race often. My experience with the manual and A8 SS that I test drove was. It had a cool exhaust. And still had the same shitty interior and sight lines of the 5th generation Camaro that I traded in on my Mustang. I didn't get this magical vib that others got performance "Feel" wise. Press the gas to hard leaving a light. And both cars spun tires. Exit an on ramp at normal speeds and both cars felt confident. I guess my seat of the pants dyno is not a calibrated as some others.:shrug: But for me nothing is apparent til the cars are line up in some type of completion with timing equipment. A .3-.5 at the drag strip is a huge lead for the camaro. But how many people can say that "felt" like an 11.9 run before they actually get their timeslip and be dead on? Apposed to a 12.2 run? I can't feel a .4 second difference in a car. I've made 500 passes in most of the time. I cant really comment to much on handling. Because I'd probably drive both cars into a field.
I think the biggest difference is the mustang is lacking a lot of low end compared to the Camaro. Not only does it lack hp/trq on the low end but than add another 200lb's and the mustang feels like a lead sled. With that said I love my 5.SLOW!:headbang:
 

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I think the biggest difference is the mustang is lacking a lot of low end compared to the Camaro. Not only does it lack hp/trq on the low end but than add another 200lb's and the mustang feels like a lead sled. With that said I love my 5.SLOW!:headbang:
The Mustang is within ~60 lbs of the Camaro, equivalent spec. Not sure where you're getting this 200 figure.

Also, net torque when gearing is applied is not lacking to a significant degree at all.
 

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The Mustang is within ~60 lbs of the Camaro, equivalent spec. Not sure where you're getting this 200 figure.

Also, net torque when gearing is applied is not lacking to a significant degree at all.
Right, the torque is there...it's just shifter higher up. There is a reason our gears are spaced closer together and we have only one overdrive.
 

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...I just can't get over that they put AC vents right in front of the shifter for your hand to freeze off.
You are supposed to drive with both hands in your steering wheel, not one hand on steering and the other gay grabbing the shifter all the time :lol:
 

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The Mustang is within ~60 lbs of the Camaro, equivalent spec. Not sure where you're getting this 200 figure.

Also, net torque when gearing is applied is not lacking to a significant degree at all.
Exactly. I believe the 3.73 PP cars actually make more torque. If you look at 0-60 or 60ft while drag racing. The cars are similar. The Camaro does most of its pulling away on the big end of the track.
 

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The Mustang is within ~60 lbs of the Camaro, equivalent spec. Not sure where you're getting this 200 figure.

Also, net torque when gearing is applied is not lacking to a significant degree at all.
That's what I thought too! Looked it up and shit, their 1SS w/ the dual exhaust is light ass hell damn. But I can see a fully loaded 2SS being close to 3800 lbs.
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436603
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This was my least favorite thing when I test drove one, outside of the visibility. You have to turn the fan way up to even feel any on your face because of that location. Very poor design execution.
Haha I can NEVER get used to the Camaro's vents! Such an awkward position :/
 

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I can respect what the camaro has to offer but i think my 2nd choice after my mustang is a challenger scat pack 392 hemi...
 

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Exactly. I believe the 3.73 PP cars actually make more torque. If you look at 0-60 or 60ft while drag racing. The cars are similar. The Camaro does most of its pulling away on the big end of the track.
EDIT: I had it backwards. 3.55 Auto has the best Mustang first gear, but falls off after.

Auto Camaro vs Manual Mustang vs GT350.




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3.73 has the best first gear, but much worse in the later gears. The 3.55 Auto has the best gears after first, but is still in third.

Auto Camaro vs Manual Mustang vs GT350.




Manual Camaro vs Manual Mustang vs GT350

Thats way more work than i was ever willing to do, god knows i didnt want to run he numbers. Glad you were willing to learn. I am still a bit surprised (since the first time you posted this) the gt didnt do a bit better overall vs the a8. I figured (without running the numbers) itd have been closer when the camaro was first being discussed around here.
 

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Thats way more work than i was ever willing to do, god knows i didnt want to run he numbers. Glad you were willing to learn. I am still a bit surprised (since the first time you posted this) the gt didnt do a bit better overall. I figured (without running the numbers) itd have been closer when the camaro was first being discussed around here.
I only have what screenshot I saved, not the file. I had it backwards, 3.55 auto has the best first gear. 3.73 is best after in terms of straightline power.

The manual Camaro is a bit underwhelming to be honest. The A8 though is scary.

EDIT: I think you're a bit surprised because if you do gear sweeps, from 2000 RPM to redline, the Mustang comes out more equal. However, if you're going from redline shift to redline shift, it isn't as close to the Camaro.
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