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What kind of numbers are you guys getting out of naturally aspirated with just bolt ons? And what bolt ons do you have to obtain those numbers? At first I was determined that I wouldn’t go the route of a super charger or pro charger, but just want to see what others are accomplishing. I don’t plan to use anything more than 93 gas due to ease of finding it locally.
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What kind of numbers are you guys getting out of naturally aspirated with just bolt ons? And what bolt ons do you have to obtain those numbers? At first I was determined that I wouldn’t go the route of a super charger or pro charger, but just want to see what others are accomplishing. I don’t plan to use anything more than 93 gas due to ease of finding it locally.
15-17 or 18+ car? 93 octane only is going to limit you to probably 450 +/- rwhp. All this is also dependent on the dyno whether it says you are making 390 stock or 430 stock
 
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It’s a 2019, and honestly don’t know what the stock numbers were. As of right now I’ve just done a JLT CAI, Corsa Xtremes, and a tune from the shop I use (SCT BDX is the tuning device). Monday I’m taking it back for a set of catless Stainless Works long tubes and a retune.
 

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It’s a 2019, and honestly don’t know what the stock numbers were. As of right now I’ve just done a JLT CAI, Corsa Xtremes, and a tune from the shop I use (SCT BDX is the tuning device). Monday I’m taking it back for a set of catless Stainless Works long tubes and a retune.
There is a sticky at the top of the V8 performance section that you will find multiple dyno graphs. Some close to the same setup as you that you can look at
 
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There is a sticky at the top of the V8 performance section that you will find multiple dyno graphs. Some close to the same setup as you that you can look at
I’m still new to the forum, where is that exactly? I’ve tried looking.
 

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I don't have a picture of my sheet, but I think it's at home on top of my xbox. But my 2016 GT PP with all stock engine with resonator and muffler delete, it made 401whp and 375 wtq on 93. I plan on doing the power pack 3 and some more dyno tuning to try and get 450whp NA.
 
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It may be a far stretch, but I’d be happy if I could get to 500 at the wheel naturally. I know I won’t hit that with what I’ve got and the long tubes, but I’ve been trying to read on how to obtain it without E85
 

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It may be a far stretch, but I’d be happy if I could get to 500 at the wheel naturally. I know I won’t hit that with what I’ve got and the long tubes, but I’ve been trying to read on how to obtain it without E85
I want to believe it's possible, but I'm just not sure it could get that without some internal modifications, e85 or FI. I think with full bolt ons, an unrestrictive exhaust, e85, and maybe lighter pulleys to free up rotating mass? You could probably get over 500 NA without opening engine
 

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The gen 3s can do it on e85. That's impressive as hell.

 

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It may be a far stretch, but I’d be happy if I could get to 500 at the wheel naturally. I know I won’t hit that with what I’ve got and the long tubes, but I’ve been trying to read on how to obtain it without E85
You won't get 500 to the wheels without E85 most likely. Unless you were running some serious octane booster and a water/meth injection kit, that would be your only attempt to come close.
 
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I want to believe it's possible, but I'm just not sure it could get that without some internal modifications, e85 or FI. I think with full bolt ons, an unrestrictive exhaust, e85, and maybe lighter pulleys to free up rotating mass? You could probably get over 500 NA without opening engine
I wouldn’t mind the idea of lighter pulleys.
 

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It may be a far stretch, but I’d be happy if I could get to 500 at the wheel naturally. I know I won’t hit that with what I’ve got and the long tubes, but I’ve been trying to read on how to obtain it without E85
You cannot do that on 93... Well scratch that you can for 10 mins... Or for 6 or 8k to make it reliable.

Bro I'd just go supercharged then just change the pulley to run higher or lower boost. Because of the architecture of these motors they will always not feel powerful all motor because they don't deliver the torque of something like an LS.

You solve that issue with boost.

Or you just get used to the nature of the beast u drive
 

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You cannot do that on 93... Well scratch that you can for 10 mins... Or for 6 or 8k to make it reliable.

Bro I'd just go supercharged then just change the pulley to run higher or lower boost. Because of the architecture of these motors they will always not feel powerful all motor because they don't deliver the torque of something like an LS.

You solve that issue with boost.

Or you just get used to the nature of the beast u drive
You are correct in my oh so humble and inexperienced opinion. Install a basic supercharger and just go. Unless you’re chasing times at the strip/track it’s the easiest way to increase power.

if you want big power na, get a Ferrari or something else with big balls.

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