You sure about that??
You literally can't make this kinda stuff up. Ahh, hello McFly! If predictions and estimations are not accurate, it absolutely means the science is false!Surprise. Predictions and estimations are not that accurate.... Doesn't mean the science behind it is false....
You hit the nail on the head!
You literally have no F*cking idea how these climate models and mathematical models work do you? It absolutely does not mean the science is false. It means they missed a variable or overestimated the strength of another.... Does not change the underlying trend and sources. BUT... this is not the thread for this discussion. Back on topic.
while I am not agreeing with Zack here either, but this is part of the exact definition of a formula being wrong, missing or under/over representing different variables. If the formula were correct, then it would accurately be able to make these climate predictions. However, from a scientific/engineering point of view, there are simply too many variables to consider that we will never be able to get this to a 100% correct formula. We can, at best, get to the point of accurate enough educated guesses. We are not at even that point yet. we are barely at the point of being able to accurately enough predict local weather over a matter of days. Nowhere near being able to accurately predict climate shifts over decades.
It just keeps getting better and better.....!!
The average price of an automobile in the US in 2019 is $37K. Cars that used to be in the $20K-25k range are now $30K-$35K. There will be affordable EV's under the average range within the next few years. And that is not even taking into account Federal and State tax breaks.
The numbers get further out of wack when you take away the EV credits and subsidies the GOV provides the buyers and makers. I don't know if the price of EV will ever truly come down, but it may decrease in relationship to average income. At some point though, the GOV will want to make up for all the lost revenue they pull in from Gas/Diesel taxes. Then the credits and subsidies will go away and the surcharges on EVs will rise. The GOV WILL get their money. By then though the ICE will be a memory and they and the promises of cheap EV operating costs will be forgotten.Talk of affording a higher priced car due to economy of fuel vs electric it drives me nuts. The delta is very high, Ive owned a fusion energi and all the math in the world says you gotta be in the $3 a gallon territory to make a gain with electric. But that's not the problem really. The cost of buying a car for 25K or 30K - which you can, the Corolla for example, is significant in comparison to a 45K or 55K electric car. A lot of people will look at it as how long does it take to make up 20 or 30K in car costs via saving on fuel? Also consider that many people in this country cant afford or qualify for a 45-55K car. I still think electric is the future or some alternative over gasoline or diesel, but the manufacturers have to make a car for the price of a corolla or mazda to get folks to buy it.
Corolla 31/40
Corolla Hybrid 53/52
Prius 54/50
Prius Prime 54/133 plugin
Tough to argue the price premium for a Tesla or Mustang E, but maybe a Bolt ? Its all just not there yet.
Cool lithium mine:
BTW in 1980 we were talking the end of the world by 2020, desert worlds, ice ages, flying personal transportation, Star Wars stuff would all be real by 2020.
You are spot on. Also take into consideration that most people won't want to search around for a place to plug in their car. For those with houses it may be easier to get some charging overnight, but for those that are not home owners what do they do? Also, there needs to be a much faster way to charge and more places to charge them. If every gas station found a way to get 20 charging stations without taking a lot of gas pumps away, you would at least not have to hunt for them. I just do not see much changing in the US by 2030. Sure there will be more plug ins, but it won't be only plug ins that you can buy. The smart play is making hybrids more efficient. This would allow the natural attrition to occur and more time for the battery tech and infrastructure to catch up and be ready. Not sure why everyone thinks something magical is going to happen by 2030, even in Europe.Talk of affording a higher priced car due to economy of fuel vs electric it drives me nuts. The delta is very high, Ive owned a fusion energi and all the math in the world says you gotta be in the $3 a gallon territory to make a gain with electric. But that's not the problem really. The cost of buying a car for 25K or 30K - which you can, the Corolla for example, is significant in comparison to a 45K or 55K electric car. A lot of people will look at it as how long does it take to make up 20 or 30K in car costs via saving on fuel? Also consider that many people in this country cant afford or qualify for a 45-55K car. I still think electric is the future or some alternative over gasoline or diesel, but the manufacturers have to make a car for the price of a corolla or mazda to get folks to buy it.
Corolla 31/40
Corolla Hybrid 53/52
Prius 54/50
Prius Prime 54/133 plugin
Tough to argue the price premium for a Tesla or Mustang E, but maybe a Bolt ? Its all just not there yet.
Cool lithium mine:
BTW in 1980 we were talking the end of the world by 2020, desert worlds, ice ages, flying personal transportation, Star Wars stuff would all be real by 2020.
Actually, it's about the same it was 60 years ago.