Intercooler: how did you decide?

[dragonacc]

This is what I'm interested in understanding. The ATM intercooler looks awesome, but is it really necessary for a daily driver? How far you're modding also comes into play but If I'm not going too crazy I'm not sure I'll ever reap the full benefits of some of these taller ICs

You likely won't, but if you decide you want more in the future if you buy the best IC now you won't have to re-buy later.

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[BigCatDan]

I was informed..
Taller ICs=better cooling while stopped. Due to radiator fan drawing air through it..???

Any confirmation?

 

[dragonacc]

I was informed..
Taller ICs=better cooling while stopped. Due to radiator fan drawing air through it..???

Any confirmation?

Well, that can't hurt. You were on the right track with what you said in Mishimoto's thread. It really comes down to your goals and whether you really want a simple bolt in or something that is a bit more involved.

 

[Herr_Poopschitz]

I was informed..
Taller ICs=better cooling while stopped. Due to radiator fan drawing air through it..???

Any confirmation?

Well, that's assuming the radiator (cooling) fan is on. I'm also not sure that cooling the intercooler while stopped is really an issue...considering no boost is being produced and therefore no significant heat exchange is going on...

 

[BigCatDan]

Well, that's assuming the radiator (cooling) fan is on. I'm also not sure that cooling the intercooler while stopped is really an issue...considering no boost is being produced and therefore no significant heat exchange is going on...

Hey herr, thanks for your response(s). im no turbo expert and i agree that at idle there is no boost, but what about sitting at a light for 2 min when its 90. I noticed the iat go up quickly, so when the light turns green and i hit the boost power, is lost at the start. If the IC is cooling with the fan I have less of that problem. Maybe?

 

[BigCatDan]

Well, that can't hurt. You were on the right track with what you said in Mishimoto's thread. It really comes down to your goals and whether you really want a simple bolt in or something that is a bit more involved.

Thanks! Indeed I agree. What i want is the best cooling option for hot days on the street. I prob wont install myself. Coming from big v8s this was never really an issue i had to deal with. At least not to this "degree" Trying to figure it out. Lol.

 

[Herr_Poopschitz]

Hey herr, thanks for your response(s). im no turbo expert and i agree that at idle there is no boost, but what about sitting at a light for 2 min when its 90. I noticed the iat go up quickly, so when the light turns green and i hit the boost power, is lost at the start. If the IC is cooling with the fan I have less of that problem. Maybe?

Forced convection is much more effective at ridding heat, you're correct.

Not sure what variable is used, but the post intercooler temp is what is of concern. Some call it IAT2 or CAT. In theory, this shouldn't be much, if any, higher than ambient at idle...there simply isn't enough heat soak from the engine compartment to make much of a difference.

So yes, you're correct in your thinking, but the effects are so small they honestly aren't worth worrying about.

 

[BigCatDan]

Forced convection is much more effective at ridding heat, you're correct.

Not sure what variable is used, but the post intercooler temp is what is of concern. Some call it IAT2 or CAT. In theory, this shouldn't be much, if any, higher than ambient at idle...there simply isn't enough heat soak from the engine compartment to make much of a difference.

So yes, you're correct in your thinking, but the effects are so small they honestly aren't worth worrying about.

What about an IC sprayer?

http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/cry02-c02-intercooler-sprayer-kit.html

 

[dragonacc]

What about an IC sprayer?

http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/cry02-c02-intercooler-sprayer-kit.html

Personally never liked the idea. You could spray water/meth into the engine instead and make more power (or have a higher safety margin). Seems like that is a better solution for cars that don't have room for a big enough IC. We don't really have that problem.

 

[MAPerformance]

Personally never liked the idea. You could spray water/meth into the engine instead and make more power (or have a higher safety margin). Seems like that is a better solution for cars that don't have room for a big enough IC. We don't really have that problem.

Not to mention intercooler sprayers are an easy way to get kicked off the track. They are not legal for most tracks!

 

[BigCatDan]

Not to mention intercooler sprayers are an easy way to get kicked off the track. They are not legal for most tracks!

Adam, I knew you were a snitch! lol! JK. :lol:

How about MAP makes a water/meth kit? *hoping*

 

[MAPerformance]

Adam, I knew you were a snitch! lol! JK. :lol:

How about MAP makes a water/meth kit? *hoping*

Maybe down the line, I personally don't like using meth kits without the use of a more extensive tuning software. Would be nice to have some 5v switches on these OBD-port tuners ;).

We are doing alternative fuels first, full e85 extensive testing/tuning starts today!

 

[BigCatDan]

Maybe down the line, I personally don't like using meth kits without the use of a more extensive tuning software. Would be nice to have some 5v switches on these OBD-port tuners ;).

We are doing alternative fuels first, full e85 extensive testing/tuning starts today!

Sounds good!
Adam, if you can. We you test can you get me a some IAT's when you have your car idling for a few min? I know if will prob be only 60 ambient up there but it would be good ref. I still haven't decided on and IC.

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