Intake+Tune or Exhaust first?

[GoodEye]

Hi guys, new to the forum –*just picked up my '15 this week (Race Red GT PP / Recaro / 400A). I just got the windows tinted 70 / 20 / 5, so it looks killer. Next I want to do the basic bolt-ons like I had in my '07 GT/CS. However I can't do exhaust AND CAI/tune at the same time –*one will have to wait till summer.

So, which first? I can't remember if the tune was exhaust dependent or not –*if so I'd obviously like the option to update the tune afterwards. My gut tells me tune first, assuming adding exhaust later won't cause any issues.

I'm planning on JLT CAI + BAMA tune and FRPP Sport exhaust (I had that exhaust in my last mustang). I also had the Ford Racing CAI + tune since I'm in CA and that was the ONLY option that's CARB-legal, but I don't see any "ca legal" intakes on the market right now... and I'll just keep the stock air kit until I need to smog anyways since it's easy to replace.

Thoughts?

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[Lostz]

My build is exhaust > suspension kit > cai > .. I went exhaust first for the sound.. loving it =)

 

[Anthony]

Livernois tuner if you actually want to go faster and have a better all around car,

Exhaust if you want it louder.

 

[OppoLock]

Exhaust.

1) will sound better

2) will save weight - you delete that cinder block of a crossover pipe which weighs like 70 pounds

3) will look better - any tips will look better than the OE ones

 

[Melekith]

Just for clarification...are we implying a catback only when we're talking about "exhaust"? I'm under the impression that aftermarket headers will pretty much require a tune to actually run right, not just maximize performance.

And if the above is true...then careful consideration should go into the choice of catback if you're looking to have an easier time mating it to some headers down the road yeah?

 

[ATTFighter]

Can you post a pic of the 70/20/5 tint combo please ?

 

[Tweezy7]

Go with Cat Back 1st
As far as I know you want most of your bolt ons finished when its time to tune.
Also would like to see this tint!

 

[GoodEye]

Here's photos I took tonight showing the 70/20/5 tint:

http://www.goodeyephotography.com/Personal/2015-Mustang/n-4nH7z/







Yes I plan on a catback –*no plan on replacing the headers.

I haven't heard of the Livernois tune – so their CAI and tune are better than the JLT CAI + BAMA tune then?

 

[Thompyt]

I did the Catback first.

 

[thehunterooo]

Tune will get you the extra power, but when you add the other things then you would want to re-tune again, might as well get exhaust first like everyone else is saying haha.

 

[RR STANG]

Here's photos I took tonight showing the 70/20/5 tint:

http://www.goodeyephotography.com/Personal/2015-Mustang/n-4nH7z/

Yes I plan on a catback –*no plan on replacing the headers.

I haven't heard of the Livernois tune – so their CAI and tune are better than the JLT CAI + BAMA tune then?

Nice pics. Scotts Valley, I used to live in Santa Cruz. Missing it.

 

[PandaMike5.0]

I've heard nothing but great thing about Livernois, however, their tune with their custom programmer is $599. You can get a JLT+Bama tune with the tuner for $750. I have only had the Ford Racing tune on my previous Mustang. Most people seem to enjoy theirs no matter who they bought it from and others swear by their vendors/experience. I personally have the SW H-pipe Catback Exhaust and just ordered the Bama tune and JLT intake. I will let you know how I like the combo once it all comes in :cheers:.

Here's photos I took tonight showing the 70/20/5 tint:

http://www.goodeyephotography.com/Personal/2015-Mustang/n-4nH7z/

Yes I plan on a catback –*no plan on replacing the headers.

I haven't heard of the Livernois tune – so their CAI and tune are better than the JLT CAI + BAMA tune then?

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I've heard nothing but great thing about Livernois, however, their tune with their custom programmer is $599. You can get a JLT+Bama tune with the tuner for $750. I have only had the Ford Racing tune on my previous Mustang. Most people seem to enjoy theirs no matter who they bought it from and others swear by their vendors/experience. I personally have the SW H-pipe Catback Exhaust and just ordered the Bama tune and JLT intake. I will let you know how I like the combo once it all comes in :cheers:.

Our tuning device is definitely a higher price point that others, but we feel one thing makes it worth it: Our Experience and knowledge.

If people look at our history and reputation you will find it's one of results, reliability, integrity, and service.

Combine that with the fact that we develop calibrations in house for mods, rather than sending people on datalog missions we feel that's a benefit of our tuner as well.

Unfortunately the aftermarket community has been hoodwinked into thinking that to get good results means buying something, getting marginal results, and then risking life, licence, and vehicle making high speed WOT pulls on the street over and over again until the tune is right. This is definitely not how tuning should be done. And time and time again people fail engines while doing it and somehow don't make the connection that saving $200 cost them thousands in the long run.

We have made it a mission to provide the community something rare: honesty. We aren't going to tell someone we can tune for every combination under the sun, and then make people do our dirty work for us. We feel that someone giving us their hard earned money makes us honor bound to providing them something safe, powerful, and enjoyable from the word go. And this means spending time developing the proper calibrations here at our facility.

But this is why our tuner costs extra money. It makes people expect more out of us, and more is exactly what we deliver. We have seen that as price goes down, so do people's expectations. This is why you see good reviews on a $200 exhaust that rusts out in a year and had to be modified to fit. So goes the same with anything. Someone expects a $50 tune to be marginal, and a $450 tune to be amazing. But if someone has allowed themselves to be convinced the $50 tune is all they need, they never realize what they are missing by having a proper setup.

An amazing amount of tunes we sell are to people that have gone down the cheap path, and get beat by our customers, and then realize what they missed out on.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Our tuning device is definitely a higher price point that others, but we feel one thing makes it worth it: Our Experience and knowledge.

If people look at our history and reputation you will find it's one of results, reliability, integrity, and service.

Combine that with the fact that we develop calibrations in house for mods, rather than sending people on datalog missions we feel that's a benefit of our tuner as well.

Unfortunately the aftermarket community has been hoodwinked into thinking that to get good results means buying something, getting marginal results, and then risking life, licence, and vehicle making high speed WOT pulls on the street over and over again until the tune is right. This is definitely not how tuning should be done. And time and time again people fail engines while doing it and somehow don't make the connection that saving $200 cost them thousands in the long run.

We have made it a mission to provide the community something rare: honesty. We aren't going to tell someone we can tune for every combination under the sun, and then make people do our dirty work for us. We feel that someone giving us their hard earned money makes us honor bound to providing them something safe, powerful, and enjoyable from the word go. And this means spending time developing the proper calibrations here at our facility.

But this is why our tuner costs extra money. It makes people expect more out of us, and more is exactly what we deliver. We have seen that as price goes down, so do people's expectations. This is why you see good reviews on a $200 exhaust that rusts out in a year and had to be modified to fit. So goes the same with anything. Someone expects a $50 tune to be marginal, and a $450 tune to be amazing. But if someone has allowed themselves to be convinced the $50 tune is all they need, they never realize what they are missing by having a proper setup.

An amazing amount of tunes we sell are to people that have gone down the cheap path, and get beat by our customers, and then realize what they missed out on.

Fantastic post!!! Kudos to you all.

 

[Chameleon]

Suspension first.

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