Imprecise steering

[EcoSnake]

Have you driven the GT?
Would you say it has the same steering feel as your EB?

Like I mentioned in my initial post, I experienced the exact same steering feel in the GT with PP, so I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with convertible and lack of Performance Package.

I test drove a base GT auto and it was on normal steering mode during test drive. Defiantly sucked in comparison, but so did my car before lowering it. It's been noted in several reviews the difference in steering feel between the two. I think its mostly due to body roll, frame strength, and weight distribution. I can feel the limits of the car very well now. Does this look imprecise?

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[Herr_Poopschitz]

i.e. instead of having to turn it 10 degree, I just want to have to turn it 5.

You're talking about ratio. Nothing can be done at this point. I'd expect a fast ratio rack to be available in the future, however...

 

[nutte]

I have an EB with PP and I like the steering much better than what was in the Focus ST. The ratio in the ST was so fast that if you were not careful and sneezed you could be across three lanes of traffic before you knew it. That may be good for autocross but it's not for a daily driver.

I find the Mustangs steering to be precise with good feel and it is not touchy.

Must check out the Focus ST at some point. "Touchy" sounds exactly how I want it.

 

[nutte]

You're talking about ratio. Nothing can be done at this point. I'd expect a fast ratio rack to be available in the future, however...

Thanks a lot for the clarification. Guess there is no use in bugging Ford about it then...

 

[nutte]

With new springs and sport setting on the steering feels precise and exact.


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I wouldn't expect changing the suspension to affect the steering, but I sure hope it does. I will make it firmer and lower the car asap, which is as soon as the local company receives the parts.

 

[petraman]

The ratio in the ST was so fast that if you were not careful and sneezed you could be across three lanes of traffic before you knew it.

That's a complaint? I loved that about my ST. It was the master of the overtake.

 

[dgc333]

Oh I got used to it but for a daily driver I much rather have something that is not as touchy.

 

[Swoope]

from the look of your avatar you are used to a very short wheelbase car.. the mustang is not that, and you sit a fair bit away from the front axle. so it seems slower.

there is not really a simple solution to your issue, other than a long test drive before your purchase.

beers

 

[nutte]

from the look of your avatar you are used to a very short wheelbase car.. the mustang is not that, and you sit a fair bit away from the front axle. so it seems slower.

there is not really a simple solution to your issue, other than a long test drive before your purchase.

beers

Yes, I much prefer small light cars similar to my old Lotus Elise 111s in the avatar.

I still find it surprising and sad though as I haven't experienced a steering issue with any previous car, small or big. That even includes a 2007 Mustang GT convertible, which definitely didn't have the super-quick steering I want, but I don't recall it being as "indirect" as this 2015 Mustang GT.

 

[908ssp]

First off there might be something wrong with your car. Imprecise is not and description I'd use for my PP car. I did think it lacked a bit in the self return and further research says this is common to the cars using the double ball joint lower geometry. The gif below is a BMW but it is the same as the new mustang. Just watching that tells there is a lot of room for flex which means a kind of mushy feeling.

 

[10splaya22]

When the GT350 comes out you may be able to swap the steering rack from that. I'm guessing it will have a quicker ratio rack which sounds like is exactly like you are looking for.

 

[Horse Face]

I've the 20" wheels that Ford offers, which comes with Pirelli P-Zero 265/35 ZR20 tires.
Tire pressure is 38 psi.

I can see how this can somewhat affect steering, but not really in the way I'm talking about. I basically just don't want to turn the steering wheel as much, i.e. instead of having to turn it 10 degree, I just want to have to turn it 5.

It sounds like you're talking about the distance you have to to turn the steering wheel rather than the degrees. Since the ratio is set in the rack the only option would be to try to find a smaller steering wheel.

 

[908ssp]

A front knuckle with a shorter steering arm would make the steering quicker. The drift guys cut the arm off remove metal and weld it back on. They do it mostly to get more steering lock but is also makes it so you move the steering wheel less and the wheels turn more.

 

[Old 5 Oh]

Good thing you didn't buy an S197. Or a 3-series. My first impression of the S550 steering was how very precise and direct it is compared with every other Mustang I have had. It's right there with my Infiniti G35. Absolutely no complaints, though the ratio could be a touch quicker. That's not the same as the directness and linearity, which I find to be excellent.

 

[nutte]

It sounds like you're talking about the distance you have to to turn the steering wheel rather than the degrees. Since the ratio is set in the rack the only option would be to try to find a smaller steering wheel.

I definitely prefer smaller steering wheels, but I'm pretty sure it's the degrees that matters most in this case. That also makes sense with the ratio comments others have made.

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