Has anyone tried this???

[ElAviator72]

Just curious:

http://crcindustries.com/auto/intake-valve-cleaner.php

I know that Sea Foam is not kosher in Ecoboost engines, because it makes the exhaust too hot during the treatment process, which in turn cooks the turbo :doh:

I'm without a Mustang at the moment, but the dirty intake valve issues with the Ecoboost were always at the back of my mind with my last car...never did break down and buy a catch can.

These dudes say "100% Of Gas-Powered Engines Can Now Be Treated Without Top Engine Disassembly" ;)

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[Tune+]

I would recommend looking into a methanol kit. More than just carbon build-up prevention with methanol.

I would pair it with a catch can as well.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42334

 

[ElAviator72]

I would recommend looking into a methanol kit. More than just carbon build-up prevention with methanol.

I would pair it with a catch can as well.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42334

Yeah, I don't see a Ford dealer having any problems with a catch can doing warranty work. A methanol kit? Not so much Not saying never, just wouldn't consider it until I'm past my 5 year/60,000 mile powertrain warranty ;)

I know that Ford started voiding Ecoboost warranties in the F-150 when they found out that the turbos were dying after Sea Foam treatments, either by the dealer or individuals.

I'm just curious if anyone has tried the stuff I mentioned, and not had turbo problems Obviously if it doesn't destroy the turbo down the line, then Ford has no reason to void a warranty over it.

 

[ronv95]

Yeah, I don't see a Ford dealer having any problems with a catch can doing warranty work. A methanol kit? Not so much Not saying never, just wouldn't consider it until I'm past my 5 year/60,000 mile powertrain warranty ;)

I know that Ford started voiding Ecoboost warranties in the F-150 when they found out that the turbos were dying after Sea Foam treatments, either by the dealer or individuals.

I'm just curious if anyone has tried the stuff I mentioned, and not had turbo problems Obviously if it doesn't destroy the turbo down the line, then Ford has no reason to void a warranty over it.

There is discussion on this product in other ecoboost forums (F150) and the general consensus is not good.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Honestly, the common sense things like using the best fueling solution that is available to you, not trying to make your car a flex fuel vehicle, driving it spiritedly occasionally and checking/changing your fluids regularly are all going to help you mitigate excess build-up.

The "issue" is not exclusive to the EB platform either. All of the luxury, supercar and hyper car companies all utilize TDI or DI platforms. From the Aventador to the Zondas, Acura to VW there are hundreds of cars that have the same "issue". It is just "new" to us.

We do not recommend catch cans on most new cars. The reasoning is simple, the rings used in the EB cars are extremely hard and dense. Obviously this is due to the added heat and pressure of the turbo application. There is going to be "blow-by" until the rings seat completely. This event is accounted for in the build engineering of the EB platform as a whole. There are several threads on every EB forum that list issues post catch can install. We have yet had to install on on any of our builds, even the 600+WHP record holders.

 

[ronv95]

Honestly, the common sense things like using the best fueling solution that is available to you, not trying to make your car a flex fuel vehicle, driving it spiritedly occasionally and checking/changing your fluids regularly are all going to help you mitigate excess build-up.

The "issue" is not exclusive to the EB platform either. All of the luxury, supercar and hyper car companies all utilize TDI or DI platforms. From the Aventador to the Zondas, Acura to VW there are hundreds of cars that have the same "issue". It is just "new" to us.

We do not recommend catch cans on most new cars. The reasoning is simple, the rings used in the EB cars are extremely hard and dense. Obviously this is due to the added heat and pressure of the turbo application. There is going to be "blow-by" until the rings seat completely. This event is accounted for in the build engineering of the EB platform as a whole. There are several threads on every EB forum that list issues post catch can install. We have yet had to install on on any of our builds, even the 600+WHP record holders.

So you are saying don't use a catch can?

 

[ypena02]

Honestly, the common sense things like using the best fueling solution that is available to you, not trying to make your car a flex fuel vehicle, driving it spiritedly occasionally and checking/changing your fluids regularly are all going to help you mitigate excess build-up.

The "issue" is not exclusive to the EB platform either. All of the luxury, supercar and hyper car companies all utilize TDI or DI platforms. From the Aventador to the Zondas, Acura to VW there are hundreds of cars that have the same "issue". It is just "new" to us.

We do not recommend catch cans on most new cars. The reasoning is simple, the rings used in the EB cars are extremely hard and dense. Obviously this is due to the added heat and pressure of the turbo application. There is going to be "blow-by" until the rings seat completely. This event is accounted for in the build engineering of the EB platform as a whole. There are several threads on every EB forum that list issues post catch can install. We have yet had to install on on any of our builds, even the 600+WHP record holders.

Can you point me to one on this forum? This is the first time I've heard of this.

 

[Tune+]

Can you point me to one on this forum? This is the first time I've heard of this.

He is talking about the flow/pressure code P04DB, which is what happens when the factory checks require the see a range of pressure/flow in the crankcase. However when you relieve that pressure you are going to get a code on SOME cars, which is a simple fix, turn the code off as it doesn't have any passthru data to any other tables/parameters.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

So you are saying don't use a catch can?

We are saying that if there is not a consumption issue on your car, leave it alone.

Can you point me to one on this forum? This is the first time I've heard of this.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2544211

http://www.shoforum.com/index.php?threads/catch-cans.131417/

Does this happen 100% of the time, no. Is there a general fix that works MOST of the time, yes. There are a few vehicles that do not accept the tuning fix that is generally accepted as "the fix".

 

[ypena02]

We are saying that if there is not a consumption issue on your car, leave it alone.

I think most people, on this forum at least, install a catch can for reason other than consumption.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2544211[/url]

link doesn't work.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

So you are saying don't use a catch can?

We do not recommend catch cans on most new cars. The reasoning is simple, the rings used in the EB cars are extremely hard and dense. Obviously, this is due to the added heat and pressure of any turbo application. There is going to be "blow-by" until the rings seat completely. After this seating occurs, you should be fine. If there is oil consumption, then investigate the need for a catch can.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I think most people, on this forum at least, install a catch can for reason other than consumption.

There is no way to notice consumption if your car is new and has unseated rings.

link doesn't work.

I tried it again, and it works for me? You can search here or on google for EcoBoost crankcase pressure faults.

 

[stang77]

We are saying that if there is not a consumption issue on your car, leave it alone.



http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2544211

http://www.shoforum.com/index.php?threads/catch-cans.131417/

Does this happen 100% of the time, no. Is there a general fix that works MOST of the time, yes. There are a few vehicles that do not accept the tuning fix that is generally accepted as "the fix".

This is certainly the first I have seen of this. Interesting... Basically you are saying if its not broken don't fix it? A catch can was something I was considering as a preventative thing.

 

[ypena02]

This is certainly the first I have seen of this. Interesting... Basically you are saying if its not broken don't fix it? A catch can was something I was considering as a preventative thing.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Blindly shutting off codes is ill-advised and can be potentially dangerous as well. There are several vacuum issues that can develop over time if you are not attentive to what codes are generated. If you notice there was no blanket statement made by us in response to your post. We know that most cars will either produce no codes or only produce a easily handled error code.

Fact of the matter is that not every car is the same. If they were then all of the 2.3L S550's would smoke stock. There are several stock smoking cars, but not even close to the majority. This goes to show that there would also not be a universal fix nor "patch" to a perceived universal fix.

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