Google Ai providing info on Vortech V3 and Coyote engines

[TheShit]

I asked Google AI Gemini Advanced a question about Vortech V3 JT Trim supercharges and Gen2 / Gen3 Coyote engines. I've been asking it car questions today and some of the answers are pretty good, some are not so much.


Here's a breakdown of suggested setups for a Vortech V-3 JT Trim Supercharger on Gen 2 and Gen 3 Coyote Mustang GTs, with fuel and boost considerations:
Important Premise: Tuning is vital for the safety and optimal performance of any supercharger setup. The following information is a general guideline, and you should always consult a professional tuner experienced with Coyote Mustangs.
Gen 2 Coyote (2011-2014 Mustang GT)

• Pump Gas (91-93 octane):
  • Boost level: 7-9 PSI is a generally safe and reliable range for pump gas.
  • Pulley size: Start with the basic pulley provided with your kit and adjust as needed based on your specific setup and tuner recommendations.
  • Fueling:
    • Larger fuel injectors (500-600 cc/min range is common)
    • Consider a fuel pump voltage booster to support increased fuel flow requirements.
• E85:
  • Boost level: Due to E85's higher octane rating, you can run more boost safely, potentially up to 12-14 PSI depending on supporting modifications.
  • Pulley Size: You'll need a smaller pulley compared to your pump gas setup to achieve higher boost.
  • Fueling:
    • Significantly larger fuel injectors (1000cc/min +)
    • Upgraded fuel pump to handle the volume of E85.

Gen 3 Coyote (2015-2017 and 2018-2023 Mustang GT)

• Pump Gas (91-93 octane):
  • Boost level: 7-9 PSI should be a safe starting point.
  • Pulley size: Again, begin with the kit's provided pulley and adjust as needed.
  • Fueling:
    • Larger fuel injectors (500-600 cc/min range is common)
    • Consider a fuel pump voltage booster.
• E85
  • Boost level: 12-14 PSI may be possible, depending on your specific setup and quality tuning.
  • Pulley Size: Use a smaller pulley than your pump gas setup.
  • Fueling
    • Significantly larger fuel injectors (1000cc/min +)
    • Upgraded fuel pump for E85 flow requirements
    • On 2018+ models, additional fueling measures for the direct injection system may be necessary for high-horsepower builds.

Additional Considerations:

• Supporting Mods: A larger, higher-flowing intercooler and a higher-flow exhaust will help maximize your supercharger setup's benefits.
• Heat Management: Proper heat management (heat exchanger upgrades, etc.) becomes more critical as power levels increase.
• Transmission: You may want to consider strengthening your transmission, especially for increased horsepower from higher boost and/or E85.
• Professional Tuning: Always work with a reputable tuner who can dial in your car's specific tune to optimize performance and avoid engine damage.

Disclaimer: Modifying your car can increase wear and tear and carries the risk of powertrain damage if not done properly. Consult with qualified professionals before undertaking such upgrades.

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[SheepDog]

Thank you, Mr. Shit.
Now ask it if a $20 minimum wage is good for California's fast food restaurants. Then ask it, What is the Coyote BBQ tick?

 

[TheShit]

Thank you, Mr. Shit.
Now ask it if a $20 minimum wage is good for California's fast food restaurants. Then ask it, What is the Coyote BBQ tick?

Done:



The exact cause of the Gen 3 Coyote "BBQ tick" is still a bit of a mystery, but here are the most common theories and potential factors:
1. Hydraulic Lash Adjusters (HLAs)

• Many suspect the tick comes from the hydraulic lash adjusters (HLAs). These components maintain zero valve lash (the tiny gap between the camshaft and valve components).
• HLAs use oil pressure to adjust. Some theorize that, at low RPMs with thinner oil, there might be a moment where insufficient pressure leads to a slight gap, causing the ticking sound. The noise often lessens as oil pressure increases with higher RPMs.
  

2. Oil Type and Viscosity

• Switching to slightly thicker oil or adding oil additives like Liqui Moly Cera Tec seem to quiet the tick in some cases. This supports the theory that oil flow and pressure to the HLAs may play a role.

3. Main Bearings

• A less common theory is that the ticking sound might be related to slight bearing wear or cavitation (tiny bubbles forming in the oil) in the engine's main bearings. However, this is less likely as many engines with the BBQ tick show no signs of unusual bearing wear.
  

4. Direct Injection System

• Some speculate the high-pressure fuel injectors used in the direct injection system might contribute to the noise.

Is it harmful?
The good news is that the vast majority of cases seem to indicate the Gen 3 Coyote BBQ tick is more of an annoyance than a sign of impending engine failure. Many owners report driving for thousands of miles with the tick with no negative consequences.
Should you worry?
While likely harmless, here's when you might want to investigate further:

• Very Loud Tick: If the ticking is excessively loud or changes in nature, it's worth having it checked out.
• Performance Issues: If you notice performance drops or other unusual symptoms along with the tick, a mechanic visit is advised.

Let me know if you'd like more details on any of the possible causes!

 

[RedTetsu13]

I asked Google AI Gemini Advanced a question about Vortech V3 JT Trim supercharges and Gen2 / Gen3 Coyote engines. I've been asking it car questions today and some of the answers are pretty good, some are not so much.


Here's a breakdown of suggested setups for a Vortech V-3 JT Trim Supercharger on Gen 2 and Gen 3 Coyote Mustang GTs, with fuel and boost considerations:
Important Premise: Tuning is vital for the safety and optimal performance of any supercharger setup. The following information is a general guideline, and you should always consult a professional tuner experienced with Coyote Mustangs.
Gen 2 Coyote (2011-2014 Mustang GT)

• Pump Gas (91-93 octane):
  • Boost level: 7-9 PSI is a generally safe and reliable range for pump gas.
  • Pulley size: Start with the basic pulley provided with your kit and adjust as needed based on your specific setup and tuner recommendations.
  • Fueling:
    • Larger fuel injectors (500-600 cc/min range is common)
    • Consider a fuel pump voltage booster to support increased fuel flow requirements.
• E85:
  • Boost level: Due to E85's higher octane rating, you can run more boost safely, potentially up to 12-14 PSI depending on supporting modifications.
  • Pulley Size: You'll need a smaller pulley compared to your pump gas setup to achieve higher boost.
  • Fueling:
    • Significantly larger fuel injectors (1000cc/min +)
    • Upgraded fuel pump to handle the volume of E85.

Gen 3 Coyote (2015-2017 and 2018-2023 Mustang GT)

• Pump Gas (91-93 octane):
  • Boost level: 7-9 PSI should be a safe starting point.
  • Pulley size: Again, begin with the kit's provided pulley and adjust as needed.
  • Fueling:
    • Larger fuel injectors (500-600 cc/min range is common)
    • Consider a fuel pump voltage booster.
• E85
  • Boost level: 12-14 PSI may be possible, depending on your specific setup and quality tuning.
  • Pulley Size: Use a smaller pulley than your pump gas setup.
  • Fueling
    • Significantly larger fuel injectors (1000cc/min +)
    • Upgraded fuel pump for E85 flow requirements
    • On 2018+ models, additional fueling measures for the direct injection system may be necessary for high-horsepower builds.

Additional Considerations:

• Supporting Mods: A larger, higher-flowing intercooler and a higher-flow exhaust will help maximize your supercharger setup's benefits.
• Heat Management: Proper heat management (heat exchanger upgrades, etc.) becomes more critical as power levels increase.
• Transmission: You may want to consider strengthening your transmission, especially for increased horsepower from higher boost and/or E85.
• Professional Tuning: Always work with a reputable tuner who can dial in your car's specific tune to optimize performance and avoid engine damage.

Disclaimer: Modifying your car can increase wear and tear and carries the risk of powertrain damage if not done properly. Consult with qualified professionals before undertaking such upgrades.

So in the same spirit of fun, I went ahead and did my own prompting (I just have the base Gemini AI not the paid version), instead of making my own thread figured I'd just add to this one. I will say I did have to refresh but I ended up with a pretty amusing draft/initial response on this one.


Prompt: How would you suggest I modify my Mischievous Purple 2023 Mustang GT California Special, if my end goal is a corner carving daily driver?


Gemini Response:
Here are some suggestions for modifying your Mischievous Purple 2023 Mustang GT California Special for a corner-carving daily driver:

**Handling:**

* **Suspension:** Upgrading the stock suspension is one of the best things you can do to improve handling. Consider coil-overs with adjustable dampers. This will allow you to fine-tune the suspension for your specific needs and driving style. Stiffer springs will reduce body roll and improve turn-in response.
* **Sway bars:** Adding thicker front and rear sway bars will help reduce body roll and improve handling balance.
* **Wheels and tires:** Lighter weight wheels will improve handling responsiveness. Look for high-performance tires designed for street and track use. Wider tires will provide more grip in corners.

**Brakes:**

* Upgrading the brake pads to a high-performance compound will provide better stopping power and fade resistance. Consider slotted or drilled rotors for improved heat dissipation.

**Drivetrain:**

* **Gear ratio:** If you plan on doing a lot of track driving, you may consider changing the rear gear ratio to a higher number. This will give you better acceleration out of corners.

**Aerodynamics:**

* Adding a front splitter and rear spoiler can help generate downforce, which will improve grip in corners at high speeds. Be mindful that large spoilers can add drag which can reduce straight-line performance.

**Weight reduction:**

* Look for ways to reduce weight from the car. Replacing heavy components with lighter aftermarket parts can make a significant difference in handling.

**Driver Mods:**

* Performance driving school: Taking a performance driving school can help you learn how to get the most out of your car's handling capabilities.

**Important Considerations:**

* **Balance:** It's important to remember that all of these modifications should be done in a balanced way. Don't focus on just one area and neglect the others.
* **Daily Driver:** While these mods will improve handling, some of them may make the car less comfortable for daily driving. Stiffer suspension and wider tires can increase road noise and harshness.
* **Warranty:** Keep in mind that some modifications may void your car's warranty. Be sure to check with your dealer before making any major changes.

**Consult a Professional:**

* Talking to a professional mechanic or performance shop specializing in Mustangs can give you specific advice on the best mods for your car and your goals. They can help you create a plan that will give you the best possible handling performance while still maintaining a comfortable daily driver.

 

[Paul McWhiskey]

I asked Google AI Gemini Advanced a question about Vortech V3 JT Trim supercharges and Gen2 / Gen3 Coyote engines. I've been asking it car questions today and some of the answers are pretty good, some are not so much.


Here's a breakdown of suggested setups for a Vortech V-3 JT Trim Supercharger on Gen 2 and Gen 3 Coyote Mustang GTs, with fuel and boost considerations:
Important Premise: Tuning is vital for the safety and optimal performance of any supercharger setup. The following information is a general guideline, and you should always consult a professional tuner experienced with Coyote Mustangs.
Gen 2 Coyote (2011-2014 Mustang GT)

• Pump Gas (91-93 octane):
  • Boost level: 7-9 PSI is a generally safe and reliable range for pump gas.
  • Pulley size: Start with the basic pulley provided with your kit and adjust as needed based on your specific setup and tuner recommendations.
  • Fueling:
    • Larger fuel injectors (500-600 cc/min range is common)
    • Consider a fuel pump voltage booster to support increased fuel flow requirements.
• E85:
  • Boost level: Due to E85's higher octane rating, you can run more boost safely, potentially up to 12-14 PSI depending on supporting modifications.
  • Pulley Size: You'll need a smaller pulley compared to your pump gas setup to achieve higher boost.
  • Fueling:
    • Significantly larger fuel injectors (1000cc/min +)
    • Upgraded fuel pump to handle the volume of E85.

Gen 3 Coyote (2015-2017 and 2018-2023 Mustang GT)

• Pump Gas (91-93 octane):
  • Boost level: 7-9 PSI should be a safe starting point.
  • Pulley size: Again, begin with the kit's provided pulley and adjust as needed.
  • Fueling:
    • Larger fuel injectors (500-600 cc/min range is common)
    • Consider a fuel pump voltage booster.
• E85
  • Boost level: 12-14 PSI may be possible, depending on your specific setup and quality tuning.
  • Pulley Size: Use a smaller pulley than your pump gas setup.
  • Fueling
    • Significantly larger fuel injectors (1000cc/min +)
    • Upgraded fuel pump for E85 flow requirements
    • On 2018+ models, additional fueling measures for the direct injection system may be necessary for high-horsepower builds.

Additional Considerations:

• Supporting Mods: A larger, higher-flowing intercooler and a higher-flow exhaust will help maximize your supercharger setup's benefits.
• Heat Management: Proper heat management (heat exchanger upgrades, etc.) becomes more critical as power levels increase.
• Transmission: You may want to consider strengthening your transmission, especially for increased horsepower from higher boost and/or E85.
• Professional Tuning: Always work with a reputable tuner who can dial in your car's specific tune to optimize performance and avoid engine damage.

Disclaimer: Modifying your car can increase wear and tear and carries the risk of powertrain damage if not done properly. Consult with qualified professionals before undertaking such upgrades.

I was not aware that the 2015-2017 Mustangs had Gen 3 engine in them?

 

[SpeedLu]

Google Gemini is garbage.

 

[beefcake]

interesting lol

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