going from 315 gears to????

[JadedGT]

If you are going to go forced induction I would not go to a 3.73. ;)

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[Built4Speed]

I have a base '16 GT, how do I find out what gears are in the differential?

 

[beefcake]

for those going from the 3.15 and doing a new gear case / diff, or those that just want an upgraded diff

we have a good stock on the wavetrac,s , nicer and quieter than the pp diff

http://www.teambeefcakeracing.com/56-309-165wk.html

 

[EXP Jawa]

we have a good stock on the wavetrac,s , nicer and quieter than the pp diff

http://www.teambeefcakeracing.com/56-309-165wk.html

Nicer and quieter based on what? "Nicer" is pretty ambiguous, though quieter is something you ought to quantify if you're making claims. Is there data to support that? I've not heard of any significant noise issues, other than the "thud" that seems to be an MT86 thing...

 

[JadedGT]

Nicer and quieter based on what? "Nicer" is pretty ambiguous, though quieter is something you ought to quantify if you're making claims. Is there data to support that? I've not heard of any significant noise issues, other than the "thud" that seems to be an MT86 thing...

Did you read the link he provided maybe he was referring to the features listed here?

Wavetrac Premium Features
* Made in USA
* Unlike other gear driven diffs, when unloading a wheel, only the Wavetrac will still put power to the other wheel.
* Lifetime Warranty is Transferable.
* Functions under both acceleration and deceleration (most others only operate on acceleration).
* Non-Intrusive: No more "fighting the steering wheel" in low speeds or tight turns compared to a spool/clutch type diffs.
* Maintenance Free: No parts to replace - No oil to change.
* Super Durable: Larger gear to housing interface. Billet steel housings. 9310 alloy steel internal gears.
* Direct replacement for factory differential.
* Manufactured with ARP Fasteners.
* Smoothly biases power to drive wheels seamlessly in between acceleration and deceleration. NO DELAY!
* Smaller gear package to reduce mass. Higher tooth strength increases durability.
* Innovative wave design of preload hubs to gear interface means Wavetrac works in zero load or near-zero load conditions.
* Works with existing traction control/ABS electronic systems seamlessly.

 

[EXP Jawa]

Yes, I read a bunch of marketing claims. I'm asking about data that supports them, where appropriate. FWIW, the majority of those claims could also be applied to the Torsen that comes with the PP car, which he is directly contrasting to. So, I'm curious. And none of that addresses the quieter claim.

The biggest difference, of course, is their proprietary lock up mechanism, but I've never seen any information as to how well it works, how much torque it can transfer, what affect it has on gearing backlash, NVH, durability, etc. I've also seen no info to tell the buyer what the differential's TBR level is, either drive or coast. So, again, if they're going to make claims about the product, you've got to expect potential customers to ask questions. I'm just asking those questions. I don't mean to pick on you beefcake, but I'm a bit of a differential geek.

 

[beefcake]

Yes, I read a bunch of marketing claims. I'm asking about data that supports them, where appropriate. FWIW, the majority of those claims could also be applied to the Torsen that comes with the PP car, which he is directly contrasting to. So, I'm curious. And none of that addresses the quieter claim.

The biggest difference, of course, is their proprietary lock up mechanism, but I've never seen any information as to how well it works, how much torque it can transfer, what affect it has on gearing backlash, NVH, durability, etc. I've also seen no info to tell the buyer what the differential's TBR level is, either drive or coast. So, again, if they're going to make claims about the product, you've got to expect potential customers to ask questions. I'm just asking those questions. I don't mean to pick on you beefcake, but I'm a bit of a differential geek.

talk to anyone that has had the noisy pp diff and swapped. they will tell you how much quieter they felt the wavetrac is

i can only go by customer feedback, and the feedback from everyone is it's significantly quieter than the pp diff

 

[EXP Jawa]

I see. No has yet what the actual noise complaint with the PP diff is yet, so I'm still no closer to identifying in what way this is better. Since your reply is subjective at best and you didn't address my other questions, I can only assume that Wavetrac must not have given you much real information or data to help sell the product. That must be frustrating. A pity, I was hoping I might be able to actually learn something new here...

 

[daltron]

I see. No has yet what the actual noise complaint with the PP diff is yet, so I'm still no closer to identifying in what way this is better. Since your reply is subjective at best and you didn't address my other questions, I can only assume that Wavetrac must not have given you much real information or data to help sell the product. That must be frustrating. A pity, I was hoping I might be able to actually learn something new here...

Did someone piss in your cheerios? Go back to your high school debate team.

 

[EXP Jawa]

I can see how that might've come across that way, I apologize as that wasn't my intent. I just wanted to understand the issue beefcake said people had with the PP diff and what made the Wavetrac better. Its too bad they don't give him better info.

 

[beefcake]

I can see how that might've come across that way, I apologize as that wasn't my intent. I just wanted to understand the issue beefcake said people had with the PP diff and what made the Wavetrac better. Its too bad they don't give him better info.

pretty simple

pp packs are noisy
pp diffs break

wavetrac
less noise
less chance of breaking

 

[Need4Speed15]

I can see how that might've come across that way, I apologize as that wasn't my intent. I just wanted to understand the issue beefcake said people had with the PP diff and what made the Wavetrac better. Its too bad they don't give him better info.

I had a PP and hated the rear. I heard and felt popping sounds and a sticking/grabbing like feeling in tight turns and when exiting my driveway. If you search you can read up on many people's complaints about the PP rear and the sounds it makes. It is a very noisy diff.

 

[EXP Jawa]

Huh, I hadn't seen anything about it that I recall, and I've been trying to read all the threads that talk about them. Where are you guys seeing all of these PP diffs breaking, because I hadn't seen that either. Beefcake, do you know if your customers that have had that happen are using them on the track, strip, just around town? I ask because I talked with an engineer at Ford Racing if the PP diff that they're reselling had any known breakage issues, and he knew of none, even though he'd set up several test cars that saw drag use.

 

[JadedGT]

This members PP diff just broke.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62026

 

[beefcake]

so you asked a parts reseller if there were any issues with their parts and they said no............

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