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It’s been REPEATEDLY debunked already. All you need to do is ask Google PROPER questions, like “Is CO2 good for plants”.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ask-the-experts-does-rising-co2-benefit-plants1/

This isn’t new information. It’s been known for quite some time.
How long? Well, here’s an article from 20 years ago. You’ve had THAT long to catch up and yet you’ve failed. HOW? How have you achieved this level of ignorance for two decades?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/12/021206075233.htm

Hello; I have been keeping fresh water aquariums since 1959. I kepp not only fresh water fish but also live plants. I have known of adding extra Co2 to the tank water for decades. Not a new concept. Also a proven concept.
In fact a small industry has arisen to help the home aquarist. Here is a link.

CO2 in Planted Aquariums: Ultimate Guide to Boosting Plant Growth - Learn the Aquarium
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientist-used-spread-climate-change-043030138.html



"The origins go back to the…U.N. environmental program," says Curry. Some U.N. officials were motivated by "anti-capitalism. They hated the oil companies and seized on the climate change issue to move their policies along."

The U.N. created the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

"The IPCC wasn't supposed to focus on any benefits of warming. The IPCC's mandate was to look for dangerous human-caused climate change."

"Then the national funding agencies directed all the funding…assuming there are dangerous impacts."

The researchers quickly figured out that the way to get funded was to make alarmist claims about "man-made climate change."

This is how "manufactured consensus" happens.


More truth coming to light
Now you’re quoting a scientist who believes that CO2 causes warming….
I thought you said that CO2 can’t possibly warm the planet? Or have you changed your mind now?
Or, are you just shopping for opinions and ignoring the bits that you don’t agree with?
 

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Electric companies push back against EPA power plant rules: Not 'technically sound' (msn.com)

Hello; Not exactly a new story. The alphabet agencies have been using their mandate power to punish many "fossil fuel" using power plants for a time. Might be more acceptable were the replacement "green energy" sources up to the task of replacement. We saw in Europe last winter the drawbacks of faulty energy sector planning. (that is the cutting and using of wood biomass as fuel)
Saw on the news recently large tracts of federal land being set aside which will stop mining and oil recovery.
 

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Now you’re quoting a scientist who believes that CO2 causes warming…
Did you read it?

She started out believing then discovered the only way to make money or keep a job, they had to tout man made climate change and had to make it appear to be catastrophic.
The author no longer believes.
 

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Climate change may have an unknown accomplice driving record heat (msn.com)

“While climate change and El Nino are known as primary culprits behind rising temperatures, new data has prompted researchers to question if there might be other accomplices in the recent outbreaks of record heat.”

“Yet, as Copernicus Director Carlo Buontempo suggests, "What we are seeing is more than just El Niño on top of climate change."”

“Among the surprising hypotheses being investigated are the effects of cleaner air resulting from new shipping regulations and the influence of 165 million tons (150 million metric tons) of water spewed into the atmosphere by a volcano. “

“El Niño does not merely warm the waters; it causes heatwaves and changes weather patterns around the world. It boosts rainfall in the southern U.S., often causing flooding, while Australia and Indonesia often experience droughts. Coastal regions in South America witness heavier-than-normal rainfall, leading to devastating floods in some years.”

“Coral reefs suffer during El Niño events. The warmer waters stress the coral, causing coral bleaching and even killing vast areas of reefs. Furthermore, fisheries in the eastern Pacific take a hit as warmer waters drive away the nutrient-rich cold currents that fish thrive on.”

Hello; Read a bit about the water vapor in the high upper atmosphere not long ago. Might be one of the “additional” weather influencers these last months. I think one article estimated the water vapor might linger for a few years.

It would be ironic if “cleaner air” is also one of the weather influencers.
 

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Did you read it?

She started out believing then discovered the only way to make money or keep a job, they had to tout man made climate change and had to make it appear to be catastrophic.
The author no longer believes.
Hello; The image of scientists being a neutral group looking "for just the facts, mam." is tarnished. Science should be that way to be sure. Too bad it is not.
Actions taken during Covid/pandemic times did tarnish the image of medical scientists and the supporting industries.
 

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Did you read it?

She started out believing then discovered the only way to make money or keep a job, they had to tout man made climate change and had to make it appear to be catastrophic.
The author no longer believes.
Curry STILL believes that CO2 warms the planet. What she doesn’t believe is the EXTENT to which it does that.
She knows that she can’t deny the warming effect of CO2 without losing her credibility.
A climatologist denying the warming effect of CO2 would be the equivalent of a geologist believing in a 6,000 year old earth, which is why she put this on her page….

https://judithcurry.com/2023/03/24/emissions-and-co2-concentration-an-evidence-based-approach/

The more interesting part is that you‘re unwilling to listen to government funded scientists but willing to listen to one who is funded by fossil fuels…
even when they disagree with you on the most fundamental principle of global warming.

Dogma much?

Oh, and here’s the IPCC doing a terrible job of alarming people by quite consistently understating the impacts of global warming on a regular basis. Why oh why can’t they do their alarmist job properly?

 

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Climate change is driving higher temperatures. Not a volcanic eruption (msn.com)

“Holger Vömel, a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, meanwhile, said that at this point, it’s too soon to say whether the volcano is a factor in the heat waves. “It’s probably too soon to say that definitively. It’s certainly possible,” he said. “

‘But he said even if the eruption is playing a role, it should not be used to undercut the role of climate change. “

‘“Hypothetically speaking, if the volcano does warm the surface, it adds to our man-made global warming that we already have,” Vömel said. “



Hello; Gotta love it when my way of phrasing a stance is used in the opposite way. For years I have been saying climate change is a natural phenomena with perhaps a thin layer of man-made influence added to it.

The volcano that erupted last year is part of natural events. Volcanoes erupt often. This eruption was dramatic enough with a large enough volume so it cannot be ignored. So, it must be downplayed.
 

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There are charts out in the wild that show it was warmer with less co2 and colder with more.

I posted before with links that during the jurrasic period there was a thick layer of water vapor in the stratosphere. Now we have a volcanic eruption that sent enough water vapor into the upper atmosphere to cause a layer.

But man made climate change is the cause. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :yawn:
 

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Isn't there a video or a voice recording of some CNN reporters saying after covid we need to push climate change hard? Seems like every other news article is about supposed man made climate change.

Our great grandchildren are going to think we were the stupidest generation ever to live.
 

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An interesting and troubling double standard is applied to the acceptability of individual actions and those of political agents. An individual declaring an emergency when none exists, e.g., shouting "fire" in a crowded cinema, would lead to rightful punishment, yet public officials can do so without attracting the same scrutiny.

Most recently, governments around the world have found that frightening their citizens would induce them to accept, even applaud, repressive policies in exchange for the promise that individual citizens would be shielded from a single virus. The loss of rights and freedom in response to the fear conjured up during the COVID-19 pandemic is a harbinger of what will be claimed as necessary to avert the existential threat to humanity from extreme weather and changing climate.
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