Gas stations have been closing left and right for years. That’s nothing new and a town ban is no big deal. Has nothing to do with EV expansion.
Same in the UK. They make very little on fuel sales here, just on the shop sales associated with them.
For some, it seems that it’s all or nothing. Either you give up 100% of your emissions or you’re a hypocrite.
And that’s what it comes down to for some of you and I’m so glad you stated it. My answer to that statement is this.
Got a link ? I posted (post#233) the link to the state of Wyoming pushing that legislation, but can’t find anything regarding Montana taking a similar stand.
This is why I called Gregs24 a hypocrite. He states, “Some people rate their personal rights and freedoms above all others…” and “if you are unwilling to ever show concern for your fellow citizens then you will never accept change.” He has lectured us for 23 pages concerning the harm ICE vehicles have on humans and the environment and the virtues of EV's, yet he drives his Mustang GT and has a Lotus Emira (ICE Vehicle) on order. It looks to me that Greg24 is doing exactly what he criticizes others for. He obviously “rates his personal rights and freedoms above others” and “is unwilling to show concern four fellow citizens” so obviously he will “never accept change. “In other words, he does not care about his fellow citizens, but pretends that he does through his virtue signaling. That's a hypocrite my friend. If the shoe fits, as they say.
it seems to be Wyoming.
Hello; Not only do they think they have a moral authority because in their minds they are champion of what's best. They could wail from the rooftops all they want, but along with the elitist mindset comes justification for using force (mandates) and incentives (taking my tax money for support).
It’s definitely a breath of fresh air that folks can debate, agree not agree, like, dislike posts and the conversation keeps going.
1. He isn’t acting out of virtue. He’s acting based on the scientific consensus, as we should when faced with these challenges. Anything else is just speculation or faith, neither of which offer anything better than chance probability.This is why I called Gregs24 a hypocrite. He states, “Some people rate their personal rights and freedoms above all others…” and “if you are unwilling to ever show concern for your fellow citizens then you will never accept change.” He has lectured us for 23 pages concerning the harm ICE vehicles have on humans and the environment and the virtues of EV's, yet he drives his Mustang GT and has a Lotus Emira (ICE Vehicle) on order. It looks to me that Greg24 is doing exactly what he criticizes others for. He obviously “rates his personal rights and freedoms above others” and “is unwilling to show concern four fellow citizens” so obviously he will “never accept change. “In other words, he does not care about his fellow citizens, but pretends that he does through his virtue signaling. That's a hypocrite my friend. If the shoe fits, as they say.
From Merriam-Webster
hyp·o·crite ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit
1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
So, it seems that it is you who does not understand hypocrisy. Are we having fun yet? Why yes, yes we are.
WE fight for our rights and freedoms as a collective. The rights of our society.
Because they are not real freedom fighters. They are just people using 'rights' as an excuse to ignore law and the rules. There are many things mandated on us all (often for our own good) but most people understand this is for our collective greater good and get on with life. Lead in fuel, seatbelts, DDT ban, Coal burning ban in the UK, Electrical regulations, gas regulations, clean water regulations, the list is endless. All widely accepted based on good scientific evidence but there was always some idiot fighting a crusade against them because they don't like being told what to do. Childish really.1. He isn’t acting out of virtue. He’s acting based on the scientific consensus, as we should when faced with these challenges. Anything else is just speculation or faith, neither of which offer anything better than chance probability.
2. He‘s not acting in contradiction to his stated beliefs. He seems to believe that the introduction of EV mandates is a good thing and he’s seemingly willing to abide by them and has even purchased an EV prior to the implementation of those mandates….
It would be hypocrisy if he said that everyone BUT him should be forced to buy EV’s.
What course of action would you recommend that Greg should take here? How does he avoid being a hypocrite based on YOUR (dismal) understanding of hypocrisy?
By the standard you’re applying, a junkie going into a school to educate kids on the dangers of their habit, would fall under the banner of a hypocrite. I’d call them an educator, or perhaps an example.
Have you considered that the REASON some people might want (or at least agree with) mandates is because they’re too well aware that left to their own devices, most people won’t act, even if it’s in their best interests?
There’s clearly no point in Greg buying an EV to “save the planet“ if nobody else is doing it. It’s really THAT simple.
As we can see from this thread already there are those who’ve gone out and bought and EV, relayed their mostly positive stories, and yet other people , having read those stories, aren’t incentivised to change their course…
So yeah, if you won’t do it by choice, big brother might have to step in and take control Which is nothing new, the only difference is the application.
Why are none of the freedom fighters arguing that they should be allowed to put leaded fuel in their cars?
Surely someone so committed to absolute freedom should be enraged that their freedoms have been infringed. Or is that not the line they’re being sold on their preferred media?
Remember when seatbelts were mandated? Anyone still arguing that it’s an infringement on their rights or have they finally accepted the science?
Is there a group somewhere in the US who are actively fighting against the increased cost of passenger vehicles as a result of all the lifesaving tech that goes into them?
Surely there’s at least a fringe movement who feel that their rights have been infringed as a result of government mandates in that area.
They do. It is called an elected government in a democracy that creates laws by which we live. It is a good thing and protects the rights of all of us.
Hello; Hate to break it to you. Local city planning is a form of government. As is local county government. As is state government as so on to federal in my country. Federal law can supersede some local and state law but under the constitution not all. Powers not specifically given to the federal government are kept by the states so federal is not supposed to able to control everything.
