Gas prices dropping soon?

[Gregs24]

I can’t tell if you are argumentative or just don’t understand what you are talking about.

Regardless you will eventually learn.

Describing yourself methinks..

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[sk47]

I can’t tell if you are argumentative or just don’t understand what you are talking about.

Regardless you will eventually learn.

Hello; Based on his (gregs24) actions in this and other threads I suspect both being argumentative and lacking understanding are correct. About eventually learning, such remains to be shown.

His pattern of argument in this thread has reached the stage of name calling and put downs. Seems to happen when faults are exposed in his comments.

It also seems those who successfully rebut his claims often enough are put on "ignore".

 

[Stage_3]

Still making a killing,..........
They had record sales in May as well.

 

[Bikeman315]

Still making a killing,..........
They had record sales in May as well.

Do you really believe anything that comes out of Russia. I don’t.

 

[Gregs24]

That's the crazy part. You don't have to believe them. Since Russia demands all payments from hostile counties be made in Rubles, it's really easy to track the legitimate transactions. The other transactions are a little harder to track but still pretty easy since there is a limited number of infrastructure pieces in place to move massive amounts of oil. India has been a massive player washing Russian oil and products for delivery to the US and Europe. They don't even hide it since India supports Russia.

The West is paying a higher price for oil and gas while most of the worlds population get it at a discount. The West is also funding the war in Ukraine while subsidizing other economies with cheap energy. If our leader had any brain at all they would stop this massive fail and remove all sanctions on Russian oil and gas while subsiding drilling and development of fossil fuels. Crushing the price of oil would end this war much quicker than funding it while also having the added benefit of crushing inflation.

Yet more that demonstrates your lack of understanding. But then you answer your own rhetorical questions with the answers you want to hear.

 

[sk47]

Hello; This comment would fit in some other threads but this one is more active currently. Had this thought earlier today.
Let's for the sake of a brief sidetrack say the "green" folks in power have actually thought about and planed their actions. Let's also say they are pleased with the very high fossil fuel prices many of us are having to pay. That the end game is indeed we will have to switch to an EV or at least a hybrid. So, if such is the game plan, there are flaws in the plan.

What occurred to me today is that the massive inflation which is upping the cost of fossil fuels is also upping the cost of everything shipped by rail, boat and truck. Still no heavy shipping EV's at any sort of scale so the vast majority still run on fossil fuels.
Here is one of my points. The cost of an EV or hybrid is going up at least as much or perhaps even more than most anything else. I recall seeing headlines about how the raw materials to make batteries is going way up. ( I do not have a link.) To restate the point. The inflation raising the cost of fossil fuels from which the green agenda hopes we will give up and switch to an EV is also making an EV even more out of reach for most.

I know. I may be giving the "green" folks too much credit in terms of such planning. The green new deal seems more of a belief system around an idealized notion than something derived from logical thinking. True believers who have corrupted science and put it on an altar devoid of critical thinking. Where am I wrong?


This further adds to the reality that a "green" EV type world is not ready for prime time currently. That being because of happening to hold power currently the green new deal is being pushed prematurely. I and others could give up and switch to an EV. For me it is that my newest vehicle is a 2004 pickup. However, it seems I have very little chance to make such a move. There are not EV's stacked up on dealer lots at reasonable prices. Also to pound another failing of the EV dream there is not enough electricity grid capacity if a significant number of EV's all of a sudden were plugged in.

 

[sk47]

Please do help me to understand. Please explain it to me.

Hello; I also would like to see the explanation(s). Reminds me of the Science is now cancelled thread in some ways. I held to a contention that a natural immunity from a covid infection was good and perhaps even better than the vaccines and boosters. He among a few others kept making comments such as the one you site.
The only purpose of the comments seemed to be to paint a picture of my being too stupid to be listened to or something very much like that. Of course, my notion was not too stupid and is regularly being supported with the passage of time.

If past becomes prologue the next move will be to label you a purveyor of "misinformation" and hope such may get you kicked off a thread. If a decent counter argument cannot be made the next best move is to silence you. There is a term for that.

 

[Stage_3]

The name of this thread should be,.................
Gas prices NOT dropping soon??


Average price in MA is 5 bucks a gallon as of today. Sickening.

 

[FreePenguin]

The name of this thread should be,.................
Gas prices NOT dropping soon??


Average price in MA is 5 bucks a gallon as of today. Sickening.

5.10 in my area

 

[Bikeman315]

The name of this thread should be,.................
Gas prices NOT dropping soon??


Average price in MA is 5 bucks a gallon as of today. Sickening.

The next 90 days are going to be painful. Hopefully well see an improvement after Labor Day.

 

[K4fxd]

Just thought I'd put this here for all the people who think man is causing the western droughts. Back in the 1400's were worse droughts than today.

Now leave my ICE engine alone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/think-fresno-region-drought-worst-120000878.html

 

[Inthehighdesert]

This nonsense says it all.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/is-carbon-removal-a-realistic-climate-solution-150118699.html

Just thought I'd put this here for all the people who think man is causing the western droughts. Back in the 1400's were worse droughts than today.

Now leave my ICE engine alone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/think-fresno-region-drought-worst-120000878.html

 

[K4fxd]

Lets say the avg temp rises 12 degrees.

That is 1 degree per month. Yea, thats really going to cause catastrophic destruction of the planet.

 

[sk47]

Lets say the avg temp rises 12 degrees.

That is 1 degree per month. Yea, thats really going to cause catastrophic destruction of the planet.

Hello; The range in my area has been from a few degrees below zero F to a few degrees above 100 degrees F. What those worried about climate change will use is a general average over long periods of time. Basically, they are saying in recent years there have been more warm days and some fewer cold days all around the world. That often gets it into fractions of a degree overall average in any single year.

No point in my dickering about with the numbers. That gets mired down into a sort of he said -she said type back and forth. As with many things which can be parsed into fitting a preferred narrative there are sneaky possibilities. Examples I have been seeing are reports saying bees are considered to be fish so that they can be fitted into an environmental protection plan. Such may be done with good intentions. Those pushing this bee=fish idea present it as a way to use fish protection codes/rules to help bees. I am all for protecting bees since they are very important in food crop production. I like to eat.
However, bees are not fish. Stretching the definition so as to fit a bee shape into a fish shaped hole is sort of a fishy deal to begin with. Kind of queers the deal in a way which appears underhanded. If the bees need some particular protection then write up the rules for bees as bees. The environmental science behind problems with bees ought to be able to stand on it's own. What ought to be good sound science is made into a charade and one outcome is folks who know better lose trust it the science itself. After all if science can be scammed in such a way that bees become defined as being fish, then what is next?

Back to the climate points. We all understand the earth's climate is in a constant process of change through earths entire history. There are at least three areas to be considered. The large natural climate processes factually known to be in play. The possible human layer of some size of climate influencing actions. Lastly, if the large natural and whatever sized human actions are indeed changing the climate what can effectively be done about it?
That last part seems to get too little play in the discussions. Near as I can glean for even the true believers it is much too late to change the warming. Even doing the impossible which is zero human carbon/methane emissions the warming is baked in for fifty plus years to come.

 

[Gregs24]

The information I have read in the past is significantly different from that information.


Embedded in the tree ring data is evidence of not one but three distinct cycles ranging from the yearly to the centennial. The most familiar, the El Niño-La Niña cycle, takes place over a few years and involves dramatic changes to the pattern of winds and water temperatures across the Equatorial Pacific. The Pacific Decadal Oscillation is a decades-long cycle in the Northern Pacific in which the waters off the West Coast fluctuate between warmer and cooler surface temperatures. The longest cycle the team found spans over a century and potentially involves wind patterns that connect the North Pacific with the North Atlantic.

Dawson says the redwood cores hold the first record of all three cycles. The tree ring records show that California is caught in the middle of climatic cycles that are so long, we’ve been ignorant of them until recently. What it also means is that the worst drought we’ve seen may actually be the norm when taking the long perspective.

“This drought, which we think of as very severe, definitely was not as severe as some of the past droughts that were recorded in the redwood tree ring records,” Dawson says. “We have at least eleven droughts we know of that go back in time that were either as severe or more severe than the one that we’re currently going through.”

https://baynature.org/article/story-future-california-written-rings-redwoods/

Whilst this may well be true, the issue is that the population currently in California wasn't there in the past and the current infrastructure will struggle, or is struggling, to support them. The solution to that problem is not really for this thread on gas prices however!

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