Front Tribar LED with Sequential Turn MOD! (new thread)

[papinist]

Correct, our sequentials require permanent 12v to work, regardless if you are blinking regularly or with emergency lights. I think the + from the original blinkers is only used as a trigger signal to the sequential circuit.

IIRC, if you don't care about hazards with car off, you could connect that extra 12v wire to the turning lights, together with the seq turning light wire.
This way your sequentials in tribar will work in hazard mode when car is powered\accessory mode, but with car off you only have the stock turning lights blinking.

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[Diode Dynamics]

The drivers are powered by the turn signal circuit for sequencing whether the vehicle is on or not. To my knowledge there is not a different wire to power the turn signal for hazard versus standard turn signal- that would be quite redundant and impractical for any standard turn signal lamp. I just checked the wiring manual again, and there is no difference in power going to the turn signal for hazard vs. turn function. It's the same circuit and same control, same voltage.

I'm not sure what exact issue you were seeing [MENTION=12253]papinist[/MENTION], but you should not have had to do anything more than tap your factory turn signal wire for both hazard and turn functions.

 

[papinist]

Good! I don't see any issue with your product, my doubt was comparing with my install that required a permanent 12v signal for that

 

[Ericc B]

Good! I don't see any issue with your product, my doubt was comparing with my install that required a permanent 12v signal for that

[MENTION=9987]Diode Dynamics[/MENTION] Just to clarify, Papinist's (and my) sequential tribars are based on a competing product from Europe.

 

[Ace]

The new DD set is ordered. Can't wait to see how they will look like. Hopefully delivery won't take too long

 

[Ace]

[MENTION=9987]Diode Dynamics[/MENTION]: Can you tell us a bit how the dim at night works? It is just that it's dimmed as parking light and brighter as DRL or is there some kind of sensor to dim the tribars?

 

[Notes]

The new DD set is ordered. Can't wait to see how they will look like. Hopefully delivery won't take too long

Looking forward to see the result, also curious who's gonna do the install...

 

[John577]

[MENTION=9987]Diode Dynamics[/MENTION] , can you also share a picture of the new boards ? Do they have the same look as the first one ?

I saw you speak about 30 LED per side, so it's the same as the first version (5 for white + 5 for amber per strip) with only the removal of the multicolor LED's ?

Thanks :cheers:

 

[papinist]

they write on product page

These LED boards are a direct replacement for the factory ones, but have double the number of LEDs, in both white and amber.

If they are doubled, how much were before, 2,5 white and 2,5 amber??

 

[Ace]

The number should be the same I guess. 5 white LEDs and 5 amber LEDs. v1 was 5 Multicolor LEDs and 5 Amber LEDs.

Guess they had to remove the multicolor for having brighter LEDs

 

[papinist]

I remember the multicolor was called RGBWA, with W and A stand for White and Amber, so they probably had a tri-color RGB led, plus a White and an Amber.

 

[John577]

That's the first version, as you can see, you have (per strip) :
- 10 LEDs for RGBW
- 10 LEDs for Amber turn

So, that means, on the first kit you have 60 LED's per side while on the new kit you have now 30 LED's per side.

 

[Diode Dynamics]

[MENTION=9987]Diode Dynamics[/MENTION] Just to clarify, Papinist's (and my) sequential tribars are based on a competing product from Europe.

Sorry! I got confused.

[MENTION=9987]Diode Dynamics[/MENTION]: Can you tell us a bit how the dim at night works? It is just that it's dimmed as parking light and brighter as DRL or is there some kind of sensor to dim the tribars?

There is a wire for the DRL/constant power, pin 3 Grey/Violet wire in your headlamp connector. Then there is a wire for the parking light power, which is pin 5 Violet/White wire. To my understanding (based on Ford's wiring diagrams), the signals you need are available in the headlamp connector, your headlights just don't come with the LEDs. If that's not the case for some reason, we'll of course work to get guidance on installation to you guys right away. Thanks!

[MENTION=9987]Diode Dynamics[/MENTION] , can you also share a picture of the new boards ? Do they have the same look as the first one ?

I saw you speak about 30 LED per side, so it's the same as the first version (5 for white + 5 for amber per strip) with only the removal of the multicolor LED's ?

Thanks :cheers:

The boards have fewer LEDs than the RGBWA, which is why they are a lower price point. But the number of LEDs isn't everything. They are far brighter than the RGBWA, because the white is a dedicated 3W LED rather than two 0.2W 5050 whites, and the amber is powered by a new driver, so they run at higher power than two ambers on the RGBWA.

Additionally, because there's less circuitry needed, the boards are designed with more thermal dissipation (the small holes around the LEDs) so the LEDs can be kept running at a higher temperature. We have thoroughly tested them for performance in high heat (100 degrees C+) but you will notice that the boards get quite warm while they're operating- much higher power output that would not be possible with the layout of the RGBWA boards.

Basically, there's fewer chips, but still a lot brighter output thanks to the new drivers that these come with. Much, much more power actually going into the LEDs.

 

[Ace]

[MENTION=9987]Diode Dynamics[/MENTION] Thanks for you explanation. :cheers:
Since there are only 5 leds per bar, do we have to worry about the single LED spots being visible wenn the tribars are on, or do they light up each bar evenly?

 

[papinist]

There is a wire for the DRL/constant power, pin 3 Grey/Violet wire in your headlamp connector. Then there is a wire for the parking light power, which is pin 5 Violet/White wire. To my understanding (based on Ford's wiring diagrams), the signals you need are available in the headlamp connector, your headlights just don't come with the LEDs. If that's not the case for some reason, we'll of course work to get guidance on installation to you guys right away. Thanks!

Are you saying that we could find the drl signal in headlamp connector? I'm not sure because our connector has really few wires:

But of course we have other cables going to parking lights and drl in fog lights (2nd and 4th in this picture)

We will find the needed signal here, but at the time of my installation, drl signal was very instable (like it is a pwm signal) so we need to get switched power from another source.

Basically, there's fewer chips, but still a lot brighter output thanks to the new drivers that these come with. Much, much more power actually going into the LEDs.

Thanks for explanation and picture, very nice boards!

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