Ford Racing TracKey

[derieuz]

That is part of the selectable drive modes and alters Advance Trac intervention, steering setting, throttle response, and ties it all together with a single toggle switch. It does not alter the engine performance.

I'm just saying its possible, if you read closely in the order guide, it clearly differentiates "Selectable Driving Modes" and "Driver-Selectable Effort"

Driver-selectable Effort:
-Offers customer choice of 3 settings
--Comfort, Least road force felt in wheel, least steering effort
--Sport, most road force felt, high level of steering effort
--Standard, balance of comfort and sport


Selectable Driving Modes:
--Normal, Default settings
--Sport+, AdvanceTrac, Launch Control, Line-Lock, More Steering Effort, Altered Throttle Response
--Snow/Wet, AdvanceTrac calibrated for traction, Revised Driver Demand Table, More Steering Effort for road feel

--Track, Pure Performance calibrated AdvanceTrac, Revised Driver Demand Table, Max Steering Effort (Direct engine response, pure performance, racetrack usage only not intended for public roads)

It all seems similar, but they are different. What makes me wonder is the "driver demand table", we'll have to see when it comes out, its a nice idea to wonder about

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[Grimace427]

damn I think I missed the throttle response that you stated....lol ...my bad.. I am aware it's not going to affect hp though. that is a no brainer there but the automatics change the shifting characteristics. I am not getting an auto though, I like the fun of shifting and passively think it makes you more attentive to driving. I watched that video of that ecoboost demo of them driving and it seemed pretty comprehensive about the eco with the paddle shift auto and it's features

Having more aggressive transmission tuning would no doubt be very noticeable and appreciated by auto-trans owners especially with the new rev-match downshift feature. For manual guys like us, IMO the best part of the Selectable Drive modes is not having to hold the brakes and ESC button for 5-7 seconds every time we hit the racetrack or drag strip. That will be a huge plus!

Yes, if you are doing headers you are going to want a custom tune. Also remember some of the gain is coming from the 93 octane tune.

Gains of up to 60 pound-feet of torque at 1500 RPM and 16 horsepower and 7 pound-feet are available at the peak using the required 93 octane pump fuel.

Those kinds of gains would be available from any competant tuner as well, not just FRPP. While I don't want to make a blanket statement here, I've read about more than a few dissatisfied FRPP Procal owners and reports of pinging from their tune. I think there are far better tuners out there.

Me too, its a no brainer. Now I can't wait to find out what the Cobra Jet intake does for the new motor.

Hell yes! With the free flowing heads, bigger valves, 13mm cams, mid-phase locking Ti-VCT, putting a CJ intake on top of that would mean instant beast-mode! Couple some longtube headers and a killer tune I'd venture 500rwhp would be attainable with just that based on other cars with heads/cams.

I've been use to racing cars with throttle by cable and I can feel that slight delay caused by my '05's throttle by wire. I also know in the last 10 years throttle by wire has advanced, but I was wondering if anyone could give any input, with comparison to a direct cable in the various throttle mapping modes?

I assume the "normal" mode would have quite a bit of lag compared to a direct cable and the "track" throttle mapping would try to have little to no lag, attempting to behave like a direct cable would; would it even be theoretically possible for one to get faster throttle behavior than a cable?

I've always played with older cars and am wanting to learn about this type of system.

In my experience since at least 2011 5.0 cars, the throttle delay can 100% be tuned out. What the tuners offer can come in 'stages' like the street tune or race tune where the throttle maps can be set either softer or more aggressive based on what the customer wants, but all with the delay removed. We won't know exactly how Ford has tuned their selectable drive modes until we get to drive them and experience it for ourselves.

My Steeda-tuned 5.0 has a very aggressive throttle response and I absolutely love it. First starts in the morning can be a little tricky but the car feels like a racecar.

I'm just saying its possible, if you read closely in the order guide, it clearly differentiates "Selectable Driving Modes" and "Driver-Selectable Effort"

Driver-selectable Effort:
-Offers customer choice of 3 settings
--Comfort, Least road force felt in wheel, least steering effort
--Sport, most road force felt, high level of steering effort
--Standard, balance of comfort and sport


Selectable Driving Modes:
--Normal, Default settings
--Sport+, AdvanceTrac, Launch Control, Line-Lock, More Steering Effort, Altered Throttle Response
--Snow/Wet, AdvanceTrac calibrated for traction, Revised Driver Demand Table, More Steering Effort for road feel

--Track, Pure Performance calibrated AdvanceTrac, Revised Driver Demand Table, Max Steering Effort (Direct engine response, pure performance, racetrack usage only not intended for public roads)

It all seems similar, but they are different. What makes me wonder is the "driver demand table", we'll have to see when it comes out, its a nice idea to wonder about

It's not just possible, but you are absolutely correct. The steering effort is on it's own adjustable button, however when you setup the selectable drive modes you can include the steering effort in the pre-sets so you don't have to adjust it separately if you don't want to.

I can't be certain how they tuned their wet/snow setting but it's logical to assume they greatly softened the throttle response to reduce wheelspin.

 

[Pablo GT350]

Those kinds of gains would be available from any competant tuner as well, not just FRPP. While I don't want to make a blanket statement here, I've read about more than a few dissatisfied FRPP Procal owners and reports of pinging from their tune. I think there are far better tuners out there.

Hell yes! With the free flowing heads, bigger valves, 13mm cams, mid-phase locking Ti-VCT, putting a CJ intake on top of that would mean instant beast-mode! Couple some longtube headers and a killer tune I'd venture 500rwhp would be attainable with just that based on other cars with heads/cams.

Agree. I got no use for the track key or FRPP Procal. We have local guys that dyno tune. And 500 whp might just be attainable, I think 475 whp easily with the CJ/header mods.

 

[Grimace427]

Agree. I got no use for the track key or FRPP Procal. We have local guys that dyno tune. And 500 whp might just be attainable, I think 475 whp easily with the CJ/header mods.

I'll say this though, I won't be the first guy on the block with a tuned 2015.


Ford is making it more and more difficult to unlock their ECU's and this can and will cause a lot of problems for tuners and their customers. To this day 2013 and 2014 models don't allow access to all of the tuning parameters especially evident with auto-trans owners.

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