Ford Racing track vs Steeda non pp kit

[Caballito]

Hi guys wondering if any here have experience with those two kits? I like both but was wondering which is better at the track and which better for the street and any bad nuances that I should be aware of. Thanx please only people that have had either kits or both would be even better thanx

https://www.steeda.com/ford-racing-mustang-handling-pack-2015-gt-161-m-fr3a-m8.html

https://www.steeda.com/steeda-s550-...ance-pack-handling-kit-15-16-gt-555-2354.html

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[tj@steeda]

The parts in our kit has been track tested & a proven winner as shown by our Steeda's #20's success:

https://www.steedablog.com/2017/11/01/steeda-wins-scca-2017-tropical-endurance-series-championship/

http://www.mustangandfords.com/news/1704-steeda-q500-mustang-sweeps-weekend-with-two-wins-and-runner-up/

Happy to put you in contact with one of our build experts that has put together the above package & pushed it on the track.

Shoot me an email with your contact info to [email protected].

Best Regards,

TJ

 

[NightmareMoon]

Steeda, I love the parts, but come on. That yellow race car has completely different springs and shocks than the kit the OP was posting about. Its not even apples to oranges.

Both kits are similar. Between the two, i'd get the Steeda kit, but neither is ver well optimized for road course tracks. The springs are too low and soft, and the factory pp shocks are not very highly regarded for anything more serious than semi-sporty street driving. The swaybars are more aggressive in the steeda kit which may feel sportier than the Ford kit. Personally for a 1" drop I'd prefer to have stiffer springs than either of those kits with more shock to dampen them, but I bet most customers would be happy with either for primarily street use

 

[tj@steeda]

The point of the post was to make the OP aware that we track test our parts & many of the parts in that kit started off in our #20 development vehicle & were designed for the aforementioned package.

The #20 car has gone through many transformations & test sessions:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/1705-not-so-mellow-2016-steeda-q500r-ford-mustang-racer-in-yellow/

And while the Steeda Q500R looks fantastic, many of the go-fast enhancements are hidden under the skin. Keeping the contact patches flat under corning is the name of the game so Steeda went into battle with its Pro-Action adjustable dampers and recently released progressive lowering springs. “We’re running all equipment from our catalog, but we use spring rates that are way higher than what you’d want on the street,” explained Vitale. “We just introduced the progressive spring (PN 555-8241) that’s on our website. It came from what we’re doing with the race car, and match nicely with our Pro-Action shocks, the same ones that we use on our Q-series street cars,” he added. “It’s a spring that we recommend for track use, but it can absolutely be used on the street. It’s been very popular. You can use it with stock struts, but we recommend using our Steeda Pro-Action or Koni dampers.”

Best Regards,

TJ

 

[Steeda Tech JohnC]

Hey Caballito, Thanks for looking at our stuff!



For a great all around comfortable ride that will deliver great handling, I would recommend using these parts.

Our sport progressive springs
https://www.steeda.com/steeda-mustang-sport-springs-progressive-2015-gt-v6-coupe-555-8210.html

Our camber plates
https://www.steeda.com/steeda-s550-mustang-camber-plates-15-16-all-555-8139.html

Stop the hop starter to get the rear end squared away
https://www.steeda.com/Steeda-S550-Mustang-Stop-The-Hop-Starter-Kit-555-4455

Either our adjustable or non adjustable shocks, if you ever plan on tracking the car, just go to the adjustable shocks
https://www.steeda.com/steeda-s550-mustang-pro-action-shocks-struts-kit-555-8157.html

https://www.steeda.com/steeda-pro-action-shocks-and-struts-for-s550-non-adjustable-en.html


and out front and rear adjustable sway bars
https://www.steeda.com/steeda-mustang-front-and-rear-sway-bar-kit-2015-555-1017.html

I can get you a nice discount on all of these parts too :cheers:

 

[Performance nut]

I have the Stop the Hop kit and it was noticeable when I first put it on. I don't have those particular Steeda springs but I have their dual comp springs and wouldn't trade them for the world. It feels like a sports car for the first time since I bought it.

I don't have their sway bars though, I went with the GT350R sway bars. They seem to be doing the job. I can't tell if it is the springs or the sway bars (or both) but the car is way flatter in the turns than it was before, pretty much non existent body roll.

Had many compliments from those who ride with me how well she handles including a guy who has ridden in it since it was stock. Do your research, figure out what you want, talk to folks, and then pull the trigger. That is what I did and don't regret a second of it.

 

[Caballito]

Hey guys thanx for the quick responses keep them coming

 

[morgande]

I don’t have any kit, but I can say a few words because I’ve looked heavily into the subject already.

That FRPP kit is same kit they run at the Ford Racing school. The springs that run in that kit are more aggressive than the springs they run in the other handling kit. The shocks and struts in that kit are specific to those springs and non adjustable. The only adjustment that can be made to the FRPP kit is the sway bar. I believe it has 2-3 different setting in the sway bar.

I’m not sure how the Steeda springs compare with the ones in the FRPP kit because the Ford spring rates are unpunished. My understanding is the Steeda springs are a true dual spring design, but are less aggressive than their competition dual rate springs. The springs that steeda recommended do also have a slightly more aggressive drop over the FRPP springs.

Steeda does offer you the chance to opt for an adjustable set of dampers. The FRPP kit is static. The tow links avail from Steeda are adjustable and considerably more stout that the ones that come with the FTPP kit. Steeda also has adjustable camber plates as well.

The true biggest difference between these two is the upgrade path. The FRPP kit is a complete kit. Which is good. It even comes preassembled. But there is no upgrade path from this kit. There are options to address the chassis and the IRS wheel hop, but your gonna have issues finding a set of dampers that pair up to those springs. Again, adjustability or lack thereof is a big difference maker in the two. On path has at least the option to it should you want it, the other is static.

The FRPP kit, IMHO, is designed to upgrade the PP cars who want something above the PP. especially when that something more is to turn your GT into a track car. The PP car already has the cooling and brake upgrades. It just needed better shocks and springs really. But the FRPP doesn’t give you mush adjustability which you would want in a track car.

Steeda gives you that adjustability option. if you really are building something in the line of a track car, your gonna want some adjustability especially if it’s gonna do duty as a daily driver as well. But without the PP you also have some additional leg work as far as your cooling and brakes go.

To adjust or not adjust, that is the question!

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