Ford Racing & EcoBoost

[diverge]

I can't wait for the video and further details. If the 2.3 has a decently sized turbo that allows it to get those gains with just intake, exhaust and a tune (w/ most likely more boost).. that makes me want to buy one.

Has any info been released on what turbo it has? The Mercedes-Benz CLA45 AMG has a turbo that runs 26psi of boost, which to me seems pretty insane for a stock setup.

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[souprmage]

My 2005 F350 6.0 gets up to 30psi (ish), but when it does, it trips a code and basically shuts down all power until you stop the truck, shut of the engine and restart. Of course, I'd rather have it do that than blow a head gasket and eat itself, which is what it will do if you put an aftermarket tune in it.

But it runs a good 25psi with no issues (knock on wood, you better not blow up now).

A truck only a mother could love...

 

[diverge]

I guess ford is never going to release the video or details. Way to go, give everyone blue balls... pun intended

 

[GTsquid]

I guess ford is never going to release the video or details. Way to go, give everyone blue balls... pun intended

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/ford-racing-2015-3878.html

Dude look around a little bit. There's like 7 pages of posts already.

Oh and props to Ken for dropping us the details. Hope he didn't get too much crap for it. That was a good deed on behalf of ford dispelling the misinformation.

 

[diverge]

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/ford-racing-2015-3878.html

Dude look around a little bit. There's like 7 pages of posts already.

I've read every page of this thread. The one in the ecoboost section. Ford Racings Facebook page. Still waiting for the video and details. I know ken said some things to set people straight, but that's not the full details.

Is there something I overlooked or missed?

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[Tim Hilliard]

I've read every page of this thread. The one in the ecoboost section. Ford Racings Facebook page. Still waiting for the video and details. I know ken said some things to set people straight, but that's not the full details.

Is there something I overlooked or missed?

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Really? It's been posted all over the interwebs

It's the first post of the thread you just quoted!

 

[GTsquid]

I've read every page of this thread. The one in the ecoboost section. Ford Racings Facebook page. Still waiting for the video and details. I know ken said some things to set people straight, but that's not the full details.

Is there something I overlooked or missed?

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Huh?? Did u click on the link I posted? It's also on the home page

 

[diverge]

Really? It's been posted all over the interwebs

It's the first post of the thread you just quoted!

Thanks!

I been refreshing the last page of this thread for the last couple days looking for updates

even went to the facebook post and scanned through all the comments. Looks like I failed.

 

[Tim Hilliard]

True.
I don't dispute that the car can do it, I just have trouble believing they got enough HP out of the stock turbo to do it.

Why? Because the stock tune and exhaust returns 100K trouble free miles and EPA mandates or do you have the flow bench data and performance curves for this not yet in showrooms turbo. If you do please post them.

 

[diverge]

I wonder how much in weight savings was done since the interiors seem gutted, besides the dash and drivers seat.

Also curious how much boost it was running.

 

[Tim Hilliard]

I wonder how much in weight savings was done since the interiors seem gutted, besides the dash and drivers seat.

:doh: Read this thread from the top of this page. It still has everything except a passenger seat, rear seat. It.Is.Not.Gutted. It also has several required items to be legal and safe at the drag strip that weigh more than two seats.

Also curious how much boost it was running.

Doesn't really matter as long as it runs the number. Boost is not an indicator of performance, boost is a product of restriction. The ability to flow air is what makes power, the ability to make boost means you have more turbo than air flow through the system.

 

[Old 5 Oh]

Boost is not an indicator of performance, boost is a product of restriction. The ability to flow air is what makes power, the ability to make boost means you have more turbo than air flow through the system.

This is counter-intuitive, for sure. Really throws 'em when the same 'charger "loses boost" on a give car when the intake, heads and/or exhaust are improved. But to be fair, on a given engine (same intake, heads and exhaust) a larger 'charger or more aggressive impeller will move more air, and will record higher boost levels in the process.

From the video, they did NOT change the turbo, the intake or the heads but they did open the exhaust.

 

[diverge]

Doesn't really matter...

Sure it does, if I'm curious it matters to me. I don't just want to know what it can run, I like the details.

I'll reread the first post for anything i missed. Thanks for the heads up.

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[Tim Hilliard]

This is counter-intuitive, for sure. Really throws 'em when the same 'charger "loses boost" on a give car when the intake, heads and/or exhaust are improved. But to be fair, on a given engine (same intake, heads and exhaust) a larger 'charger or more aggressive impeller will move more air, and will record higher boost levels in the process.

From the video, they did NOT change the turbo, the intake or the heads but they did open the exhaust.

Me is guessing a non-cat big down pipe let's that puppy spin up pretty quick, add a tune and Miss Piggy get's some air under the tires. This is obviously not a typical 4, it makes all it's power under 6000. The footage seems to show that. Of course this is all just speculation based on minimal public information.

 

[sknapp302]

:doh: Boost is not an indicator of performance, boost is a product of restriction. The ability to flow air is what makes power, the ability to make boost means you have more turbo than air flow through the system.

Boost is absolutely an indicator of performance. If the car picks up 100 HP with a 3 psi gain how is that not relevant. Inquiring minds want to know. Its not until you go beyond and outside a turbo/engine efficiency range that you need to worry about restriction overcoming the performance benefits associated with added boost. That's why we rely on turbo maps to build our engine turbo combos.

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