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Below an excerpt from an article in the Sydney Morning Herald. Anyone heard of this? Are we protectively "chipped"?

"got into the car using a relatively simple and inexpensive device called a "power amplifier."

He explained it like this: In a normal scenario, when you walk up to a car with a keyless entry and try the door handle, the car wirelessly calls out for your key so you don't have to press any buttons to get inside. If the key calls back, the door unlocks. But the keyless system is capable of searching for a key only within a couple of feet.

Danev said that when the teenage girl turned on her device, it amplified the distance that the car can search, which then allowed my car to talk to my key, which happened to be sitting about 50 feet away, on the kitchen counter. And just like that, open sesame.

"It's a bit like a loudspeaker, so when you say hello over it, people who are 100 meters away can hear the word, 'hello,'" Danev said. "You can buy these devices anywhere for under $100." He said some of the lower-range devices cost as little as $US17 and can be bought online on sites like eBay, Amazon and Craigslist.

Danev said his company was in talks with several car manufacturers to install a chip that can tell how far the key is from the car, thereby defeating the power-amplifier trick.

While I can't be 100 per cent certain this is the device they used to get into my car, until car companies solve the problem, he said, the best way to protect my car is to "put your keys in the freezer, which acts as a Faraday cage, and won't allow a signal to get in or out.""
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Was in the Belgian papers as well today, I'm wondering what security measures Ford is taking to avoid break ins this way.
 

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... "put your keys in the freezer, which acts as a Faraday cage, and won't allow a signal to get in or out."
Or maybe use some tinfoil? ;)
 

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Was in the Belgian papers as well today...
Mmm waffles

Yea I would think tinfoil would be suggested before keeping your keys in the freezer lol
 

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More like something too dense for the signal to pass through. Not a true faraday cage
 

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Thing is, anyone with a malicious intent isn't going to spend the money on this stuff. They're just going to bust open your window.

Edit: too many beers to determine validity of the technology. Just saying. :cheers:
 
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I don't think that would work considering the car know the distance of the FOB (can't start the car with the key on the outside), but I am not sure on the distance. When the signal was amplified it would take to much time to relay the code, hence would not work or at least not start.
 

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I don't believe this really. Getting into a car is not all that hard really so why go through all this trouble to do this? Also, no, the Mustang door does not pop open when it detects your key you need to pull the handle.

Now, if the person would have gotten in and pushed the button to start the car, now I can see someone going through the trouble to do this.

Is there a link to this article so I can read what they did?
 

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Okay, I found the write up here:

http://geeknizer.com/wirelessly-hack-unlock-car-without-key-fob/

It was a demonstration given at the Black Hat conference in 2014.

I do not want to alarm anyone but there is a faster way to get into our Mustangs. With a frameless window in the door you just need to pull the top away from the weather strip and insert a rod configured to reach the unlock button on the door. Tripping that will set off the alarm but your computer bag on the passenger seat is toast. Lock your stuff in your trunk out of sight.
 

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Okay, I found the write up here:

http://geeknizer.com/wirelessly-hack-unlock-car-without-key-fob/

It was a demonstration given at the Black Hat conference in 2014.

I do not want to alarm anyone but there is a faster way to get into our Mustangs. With a frameless window in the door you just need to pull the top away from the weather strip and insert a rod configured to reach the unlock button on the door. Tripping that will set off the alarm but your computer bag on the passenger seat is toast. Lock your stuff in your trunk out of sight.
...or take your stuff out of your car. It's not a storage unit. Just wish my wife would understand that!
 
 








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