First manual trans car. MT82 issues?

[Mountain376]

Using your clutch to hold your car on a hill is a good way to get yourself in the market for a new clutch, in case that wasn't obvious. Learning the engagement point is fine, but using your clutch as a brake on a hill is no bueno.

Try using the parking brake ("E-Brake") instead.

On an incline, depress and hold the parking brake release button and pull the handle to engage the parking brake. Let off the brake pedal, depress and hold the clutch pedal and put the transmission in gear. When you need to move the car, slowly let up on the clutch while depressing the accelerator (gently) until the engine RPMs just begin to slightly dip (or engine "bogs" a little). At that point start letting the parking brake lever return to the rest/disengaged position (remeberember, the parking brake release button is held the entire time).

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[Mountain376]

There has been a number of changes to the MT82 since 2011. The biggest for the S550/2015 are revised synchronizer-to-gear clearances to reduce synchronizer drag.

Want your MT82 to last?

1. Learn to drive with an MT82 - not learn to drive stick... Learn THE MT82.
2. Use Redline MTL or Amsoil Synchromesh.
3. Replace the stock POS shifter. At the very least, install a shifter box bushing with something stiffer.
4. Enjoy.

 

[Barrel]

Try using the parking brake ("E-Brake") instead.

On an incline, depress and hold the parking brake release button and pull the handle to engage the parking brake. Let off the brake pedal, depress and hold the clutch pedal and put the transmission in gear. When you need to move the car, slowly let up on the clutch while depressing the accelerator (gently) until the engine RPMs just begin to slightly dip (or engine "bogs" a little). At that point start letting the parking brake lever return to the rest/disengaged position (remeberember, the parking brake release button is held the entire time).

The neat thing about the S550 is the ability to use the hill assist which does exactly that procedure but it's automated. I personally love it, but I can see how people don't like it since it takes a split second for the car to release the brakes and can stall the car is you didn't give enough throttle or let the clutch out too quickly.

 

[SVTFreak]

Oh geesh. Just learn to do it without the parking brake. Practice! My road T's into the main road on an incline (hill). Stop sign for me and curves both ways on Main Street. Trees impede view until your at the sign (so can't just keep going if no one is coming). I'm 41, lived in this street since 4. I learned to drive a manual having to go up that every day. Now, I can't even tell you how I do it, I just do. All at once, I let off brake, give it a little gas and let out clutch. Car doesn't roll. Takes a time or two on new car (while muscle memory learns clutch etc)

My advice, go find a hill. Parking lot, unused road, driveway or something of the like and do it about 30 times. You'll never need the stupid parking brake and you'll learn to do it correctly. It's not hard just takes a little time to develop the muscle memory.

 

[dragonacc]

The neat thing about the S550 is the ability to use the hill assist which does exactly that procedure but it's automated. I personally love it, but I can see how people don't like it since it takes a split second for the car to release the brakes and can stall the car is you didn't give enough throttle or let the clutch out too quickly.

I hate the hill start assist, I turned mine off day 2. It's easy to start on a hill without any gadgets (including the hand brake) if you just practice.

 

[Barrel]

I hate the hill start assist, I turned mine off day 2. It's easy to start on a hill without any gadgets (including the hand brake) if you just practice.

I've been driving manual since I got my license and I like to think I'm pretty good at this point. Sometimes, especially when on a hill in traffic, it's just nice not to have to worry about it. It's not for everyone for sure, but when I'm feeling lazy it's awesome. I managed 4 years without it on my '11 and it only takes a 1 second motion going from brake to gas and letting out the clutch to start the car forward. But when some a-hole in DC traffic is on your behind it's aggravating all the same.

 

[cp5899]

I think the Trans shifts fine and I have had no issues with it. It may thud every once in a while and nibble a gear here and there but overall I like it. But, my first cars were 60's and 70's cars with 4 speed manuals. If you think the mt-82 is bad try an old 4 speed with a wearing 2nd gear syncro on a cold morning. That sucks. Lol


On a side note I turned off the hill assist as soon as I figured out it had it.

 

[foghat]

The neat thing about the S550 is the ability to use the hill assist which does exactly that procedure but it's automated. I personally love it, but I can see how people don't like it since it takes a split second for the car to release the brakes and can stall the car is you didn't give enough throttle or let the clutch out too quickly.

This. I had to turn it off because of this. Imo, ford's implementation of the hill assist is poor - it doesn't release fast enough and seems to engage even if you aren't on an incline. Either way, if you are fast enough (which was just driving normal for me) you fight against the brakes.

In my 135 hill assist was not defeatable, but was completely unobtrusive - like it knew when (and released a split second before) the clutch was about to be engaged.

The only time I knew it was there, was when I'd try roll backward by only pushing the clutch in. There would be a slight delay before I started to roll.

 

[Laztug]

It's the same transmission with minor changes that fixed none of the previous issues.
Best thing you could do is look at the transmission section of the forum. You will notice it is filled with mt82 issue threads. You will also notice that the people who opted for the 6r80 are having any problems with their transmissions. It's been that way since 2011.

 

[cp5899]

But from a fun to drive stand point I would be bored out of my mind already with this car if it was automatic. I need a fun commute and this was the best option at the time. With in the next year there will be more options (c7 z06, gt350, gt500 and maybe a hellcat/viper even though I don't like dodge)

 

[aeropaul]

It's the same transmission with minor changes that fixed none of the previous issues.

An untruer statement couldn't have been made. The 2015 shifter design is much improved (night and day, the 11-14 shifter is garbage, no arguments there), and people aren't having widespread problems missing shifts, popping out of gear, or getting locked out of gears during cornering. A few people have stated that they miss the 2-3 shift.

Best thing you could do is look at the transmission section of the forum. You will notice it is filled with mt82 issue threads. You will also notice that the people who opted for the 6r80 are having any problems with their transmissions. It's been that way since 2011.

The truth of the matter is that the "MT82 issues" threads are all a bunch of hand-wringing about harmless noises. Only one thread that I could find ended up being an actual transmission fault was this one: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17275. Even Nemesys's problem was diagnosed as clutch fault, but the dealership opted to replace the entire transmission instead.

There are also plenty of reports stating that the "thud while shifting" goes away as the transmission breaks in, and is extremely temperature dependent.

And about the 6R80 being problem free. There is one thread in the "Issues and Warranty" subforum where an owner of an EB/auto car had the transmission pump fail. The user stated that his dealership told him that Ford got involved because it was the fourth case in the country of the same fault happening. In the grand scheme of things, this isn't enough data to actually draw any conclusions from. Just saying that I can look at forum posts too.

There are a lot of skeptical minds here given the past model's problems, and justifiably so. And there are a lot of folks that are just looking for every little thing to be a problem, because they don't have enough to worry about, or don't have enough experience to understand that manual transmissions actually make some noise. There is enough mis-information and hand-wringing going on with no data or case-studies to identify actual problems yet, lets not add to it.

 

[Ruby305GT]

I will admit, I started a thread to keep up on the MT-82 as our vehicles age. I'm not looking for an issue, but would like to have a record from members given something does surface. If notning does, then all the merrier. I've learned to live with the issues this transmission has so far. I've driven stick since I was 15 with my learners permit. I've had several stick shift cars, including high performance ones and have driven friends high performance manuals. This is the first car I have experienced a "thud" with and the "notchy" feeling. I am talking about driving everything from an NSX, to a GT500, bmw 335is, eclipse, camaros, Sentras, g35 6mt, 240sx's and some others I can't recall right now. The experience with the 2015 has been unique and caught my attention, although the general consensus claims for normal operation, it still raises concerns given the confirmed tainted history of the MT-82. Forget it being Chinese or "cheap parts", I could care less where it's built given its done right. I honestly just wish the transmission can last and perform as Ford intended and I will drive this car the way it was intended, spirited. Whatever happens will happen, I will deal with it when time comes accordingly, but enjoy the hell out of the car in the meantime and don't hold back. It's a performance car, not a prius, have at it safely!


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