Finalizing my order. Auto or manual? EU

[BluByeU]

Manual FTW.

I read where you were concerned about the power, just take it easy when you first start driving it. You will become accustomed to the power/torque and will eventually want MORE! There's a lotta fun to be had driving a manual on the street, but if you are looking at tracking the car competitively - go w/the paddle shift/auto.

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[Less Weight]

Auto.

 

[15wile]

The auto is already faster than the PP car. Auto vs manual is one question, but in this case it's really auto vs not-very-good manual.

Can't vouch for this 100%, but mine is NOT a PP car, and if I'm on my game, and powershift it, it'll edge out an auto (we're talking like a tenth of a second or less -- super close). Of course, if I'm not on my game, or just quick shift, I'll lose.

Take that for whatever it's worth.

 

[15wile]

The biggest problem with the MT-82 is that it won't hold a lot more power without some transmission work. Know a lot of folks who put superchargers or turbos on, and killed their transmission. One guy destroyed 2nd gear, another grinds like a mofo. Clutch gets worn out real fast, even if you manage to avoid those problems. So if you're going forced induction, or a major build, either go Auto, or swap out the MT-82 for a Tremec.

But stock, or full bolt on? You're fine. MT-82 is a good transmission once you get used to it. Shifts smooth. I didn't even bother with a short-throw on this, the stock shifter is fine.

So that's a question to answer too, what your mod plans are. If you go forced induction, the auto will hold up better in stock form. There's not much overhead left in the MT-82.

 

[PatrickGT]

Get a manual if you actually enjoy driving, get an Auto if you want to brag about being better prepped for mods you don't have yet on the internet.

 

[Grintch]

The auto is already faster than the PP car. Auto vs manual is one question, but in this case it's really auto vs not-very-good manual.

Faster where? In a boring straight line maybe. Lets see, the Performance Pack is manual only, the GT350 is manual only, the Boss 302R racecar was manual only. Why it's almost like Ford thinks manuals are faster.

Now the MT-82 isn't the best manual around, but it's not like the automatic is either. Now if it was a dual clutch trans it would be a different discussion.

 

[Labradog]

If you read through the posts you would know I was responding to dystopic about "boring straight line" acceleration. Two of the three cars you mention have a transmission other than the MT-82. The limitation of the Performance Pack option to manual transmission cars has nothing to do with what Ford thinks is "faster", it's about making money. I've owned both, and traded in the manual because I found it unacceptable for a car I'm going to drive every day for the foreseeable future.

 

[15wile]

If you read through the posts you would know I was responding to dystopic about "boring straight line" acceleration. Two of the three cars you mention have a transmission other than the MT-82. The limitation of the Performance Pack option to manual transmission cars has nothing to do with what Ford thinks is "faster", it's about making money. I've owned both, and traded in the manual because I found it unacceptable for a car I'm going to drive every day for the foreseeable future.

Again, not sure with the PP (it is a bit heavier than my base GT, I think), but mine is competitive against autos at the drag strip, provided I'm powershifting and don't miss 3rd, or something.

The MT-82 is fine if you're not planning to add big power adders. Stock to full bolt-on, it'll hold fine. Beyond that, no. Of course, if you're building a serious drag car, you should go auto on general principle anyway.

To each their own, but I think the notion of the manual being slower is not right. At least, not yet. When Ford releases the 10 speed auto, things will be different.

 

[PatrickGT]

If you read through the posts you would know I was responding to dystopic about "boring straight line" acceleration. Two of the three cars you mention have a transmission other than the MT-82. The limitation of the Performance Pack option to manual transmission cars has nothing to do with what Ford thinks is "faster", it's about making money. I've owned both, and traded in the manual because I found it unacceptable for a car I'm going to drive every day for the foreseeable future.

So Ford thinks they will make more money if they don't let people spend an extra $1200 for the high-margin automatic when they select performance package?


At some point, I'd like to introduce you to my good friend Logic.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Hopefully you'll get this soon enough . . .

I've always wanted a proper American muscle car, and I'm looking to get the muscle car experience. I always thought they were traditionally automatics.

That's mainly because of the big influence that drag racing (and its less-than-legal street racing cousin) has. And partly because people here are either a little too lazy to want to drive a stick-shift car or flat-out refuse to learn how.

It wasn't always that way, either.


I really think your "problem" is that you haven't yet adjusted to how responsive the Mustang's steering can be (you're doing too much steering to stay centered in your lane, overcorrecting to get back to center, and then overcorrecting yet again for doing too much of that). My S197 behaved the same way, so I know what you were trying to describe.

Trust me, this is something that you can get used to, after which time you won't even be thinking about what it takes to keep it going where you want it to go while you're shifting.


Norm

 

[SpeedLu]

Get a manual if you actually enjoy driving, get an Auto if you want to brag about being better prepped for mods you don't have yet on the internet.

Dumb logic. I enjoy driving my automatic just fine, and I have plenty of mods already and more coming. Your post makes no sense. Typical "I drive a stick" elitism. Thankfully most manual drivers aren't as childish as you.

 

[twisted42]

For me, I bought mine as a manual because I enjoy the experience of a manual. The automatic is superior in a number of ways, but not on the enjoyment factor for me.

Get which one you like more. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the automatics of today. They are fast and engaging to drive. Don't worry about what others may or may not think.

 

[16 GT MM/Auto]

Of the 10 Stangs I've owned the past few decades, this is my trans count:

Automatic: 3
Manual: 7

I learned after a shoulder surgery that a manual trans means no driving it for a lot longer than if you had an automatic.

I guess you look at things differently when you get older, also, there's no acceleration penalty with an auto now as there was in the past.

 

[crowemag55]

I bought the Auto because my 2011 MT82 was starting to show the problems inherent in that transmission and by 2015 the only thing Ford would say about it was something along the lines of "improved shifting".. Not good enough Ford.. A year and a half later, I still enjoy the Auto with 3.55's and have not regretted it at all. And this from someone that hadn't bought a new car with Automatic transmission since 1978...

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