EcoBoost Oil Cooler ideas...

[EcoBOSS]

Yes, there is a Mishimoto kit. It is Air to Oil and uses a sandwich block and moves the factory filter DOWN - not what I'm after...

Ideally, someone would make a thermostatic version that replaced the Engine Oil Filter Adapter (P/N: FR3Z-6881-J) DIRECTLY and was machined to accept -AN Fittings and a FULL ONE QUART Motorcraft FL-1A, Napa Gold 51515, Pure One PL30001 - etc...

Since they don't, I may try a 3S7Z-6881-AA (OIL FILTER ADAPTER FORD TRANSIT CONNECT ESCAPE MERCURY MARINER) this adapts an oil to water cooler (1S7Z-6A642-AAA) - perfect for the EcoBoost Performance Package with the larger radiator.

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[TheLion]

Is the oil cooler (1S7Z-6A642-AAA) thermostatic though? Standard unregulated coolers are no good for 4-season states like mine or the oil will be cold forever and half = not good for engine wear.

I'd agree the PP radiator (which I upgraded my base model to) is perfect for oil to water cooling. It has plenty of capacity and these cars desperately need an oil cooler for anything more than drag strip or daily driving.

Where were you thinking of tapping into the radiator at though? Very intrigued by this project!

 

[Edkiefer]

The old 2.3 turbo (Tbird/SVO/XR4Ti) all had water cooled oil filter sandwich type adapters, they tapped off heater core line.
Ford Focus 2.0 and 2.3 have water cooled oil adapters but you would need the oil housing mount to as its not sandwiched like oli filer>water cooler>mount but oil filter>mount> oil water cooler mounted on top.
The mount looks different from pics on fords parts catalog.

You would think the rs block be similar to mustang 2.3, maybe its just gasket and mounting holes are the same.

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/P...2&search=true&year=2017&make=Ford&model=Focus

 

[TheLion]

The old 2.3 turbo (Tbird/SVO/XR4Ti) all had water cooled oil filter sandwich type adapters, they tapped off heater core line.
Ford Focus 2.0 and 2.3 have water cooled oil adapters but you would need the oil housing mount to as its not sandwiched like oli filer>water cooler>mount but oil filter>mount> oil water cooler mounted on top.
The mount looks different from pics on fords parts catalog.

You would think the rs block be similar to mustang 2.3, maybe its just gasket and mounting holes are the same.

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/P...2&search=true&year=2017&make=Ford&model=Focus

As far as I'm aware, the RS block, rods, pistons and crank are the same. The primary difference is int he turbo, inter cooler and factory calibration as they bump factory power output up a little and it has a tad larger turbo (not much though). This might be the solution I'm looking for if we can find the fittings to tap into heater core lines (which I'd imagine some standard T-fittings exist that we could use).

 

[TheLion]

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/CatalogResults.aspx?y=2016&m=Ford&mo=Mustang#Search

The gasket looks to be the exact same shape. The difference is in how the filter block is designed internally. I think the RS Filter block and oil cooler would bolt right up to the EB mustang :-)

 

[TheLion]

Basically I think you could buy the RS filter block, gasket and cooler plate. Then you would just need to come up with the coolant plumbing. I would imagine the oil pressure switch would be re-usable and the same between the two (could always compare the PN's).

 

[Edkiefer]

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/CatalogResults.aspx?y=2016&m=Ford&mo=Mustang#Search

The gasket looks to be the exact same shape. The difference is in how the filter block is designed internally. I think the RS Filter block and oil cooler would bolt right up to the EB mustang :-)

The Mustang oil filer mount uses a O-ring type gasket, were focus is paper gasket, but I think your right it will work, mount up if you use the right gasket for the oil mount.

here the hoses, but Focus is transverse engine located so don't think they will help.
http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/PartDetail.aspx?n=DLMpG2h5olX1XMcOZJnj%2bA%3d%3d&id=427377956&m=2&search=true&year=2017&make=Ford&model=Focus
Fairly easy to make up some tee's once you know the sizes, you can probably find some pre made ones online.

 

[EcoBOSS]

I was just going to top in at the heater bypass/return line and follow it to the block.
The alternate idea would be to use the thermostat bypass connection and Tee into the return.

Either way - should be simple - just DON'T use the turbo cooling return line! ;)

Looking at <$200 for parts from Tasca

So - Oil to water cooling is different, you DO NOT use a thermostat as the system is 2 way. When the oil is hotter than the water, the water pulls heat from the oil. When the water is hotter than the oil, the oil temp rises - it's a win/win since water temps rarely go over 200*f and oil does...

 

[EcoBOSS]

Parts from 2006 Escape XLT 2.3L Gas

 

[NothernVAMustang]

I got one for sale 250 shipped. It's the mishimoto oil cooler with the thermostat

 

[EcoBOSS]

I got one for sale 250 shipped. It's the mishimoto oil cooler with the thermostat

:headbonk:

See #9

 

[TheLion]

:headbonk:

See #9

I think he was offering it for sale instead for the cheap cost as it's a bolt on unit. The Mishimoto oil cooler would certainly do the trick, good enough you shouldn't be burning up the oil, but I think utilizing the radiator would yield better results overall.

There far more capacity in the radiator than the small oil to air exchanger of the MM system. Plus it's more integrated and I've not had good luck with MM products (not their radiators) as many people.

 

[Edkiefer]

The water to oil is good way to go for every day usage. It might not keep it as cool as a large air to oil one but it will keep it around 200-220 or so most all times.
The oil temps could probably run 300-350 with heavy use my guess (does Mustang give oil temp readings)?

I am surprised Ford didn't add one stock as they have done in past and do for Focus and RS now, seems odd to not to.

 

[TheLion]

The water to oil is good way to go for every day usage. It might not keep it as cool as a large air to oil one but it will keep it around 200-220 or so most all times.
The oil temps could probably run 300-350 with heavy use my guess (does Mustang give oil temp readings)?

I am surprised Ford didn't add one stock as they have done in past and do for Focus and RS now, seems odd to not to.

Me too. That's probably th3 biggest weakness next to the stock FMIC. But it appears there are some decent alternatives available.

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