Dimensional difference between 2016 Camaro & Mustang

[ZaneWayne]

It is a dick move and, you are gonna get the same d!ck again. 3700lbs wasn't an estimate, it was the number given to beat the Mustang...

Do you honestly believe the larger car weighs less? When did we abandon common sense for complete stupidity?




Better question, why would you trust such a company again?


I'm not gonna "man up" and just accept it. You and I both know that this will change... they need to sell cars or they are finished...

Man up? and get back to the 3685lbs SS? But then it magically gains 100lbs... then I just did a man up and became part of the problem.

That whole post was hard to follow haha. I don't know what else to say. It's been weighed by magazines and it stayed true to what Chevy said it would. I know you won't man up and say you were wrong. But it's what you should do. Then some would take you seriously, because you only have about 3 that do right now haha.

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[ZaneWayne]

Show me one magazine test that weighed a base car...

What if we had a 3736lbs GTPP weighed on here? Or any of the 3660-3700lbs GT's that exist? I see a base here weighed at 3700-ish...

Sorry, you are gonna get nailed again. You were 100% sure about the ATS-V being 3700lbs. You twisted and spun every car weighed... only to have Caddy submit to this fact.

You ignore the fact that the initial ATS-V's weighed and tested, from base to loaded was 3700-3762lbs... Now it's 3809-3860lbs...

So? Explain please? Because when the SS jumps to 3780-3820lbs, I want to quote you. How come you don't give Caddy shit for lying about 109lbs? It's a lowlife move if you ask me...

...then they wait almost a full model year to tell the truth :lol: and this is acceptable? What a hoot!!!

So, please give me details on how a 3700-3762lbs ATS-V gains 100lbs during the model year... please... I am dying to hear this... I can wait to bust the Camaro just like I did with the ATS-V. I had the details a loooooooong time ago and pretty much laid the whole thing out here... B-U-S-T-E-D :lol:

thePill is far from done... wait until the Csmaro starts limping around from heat :lol:

Tell you what, my SS is produced, just waiting to be shipped. When I get it, I'll weigh it.

 

[thePill]

That whole post was hard to follow haha. I don't know what else to say. It's been weighed by magazines and it stayed true to what Chevy said it would. I know you won't man up and say you were wrong. But it's what you should do. Then some would take you seriously, because you only have about 3 that do right now haha.

It's hard to follow because it is a fact, Caddy lied to you and many others. People vouched for the ATS-V and guess what? It was a lie...

You can't follow it because it puts doubt into your mind. You doubt Chevy now, you doubt them and every number they provide. You are unsure at best and need to seal this deal so you can relax. Well, I wouldn't rest yet...

It doesn't bother you they lied? Once you found that out, how can you trust them again? 109lbs is a lot of weight to withhold man and they did it with malicious intent.

Let's hope they are being honest this time... Let's hope for once they deliver and it's not a box of empty promises. I can tell you with certainty, they eventually wil get busted by someone higher up than myself.

Unfortunately, for now, thePill's speculation has become more accurate than GM's pre-production fluff.

 

[ZaneWayne]

It's hard to follow because it is a fact, Caddy lied to you and many others. People vouched for the ATS-V and guess what? It was a lie...

You can't follow it because it puts doubt into your mind. You doubt Chevy now, you doubt them and every number they provide. You are unsure at best and need to seal this deal so you can relax. Well, I wouldn't rest yet...

It doesn't bother you they lied? Once you found that out, how can you trust them again? 109lbs is a lot of weight to withhold man and they did it with malicious intent.

Let's hope they are being honest this time... Let's hope for once they deliver and it's not a box of empty promises. I can tell you with certainty, they eventually wil get busted by someone higher up than myself.

Unfortunately, for now, thePill's speculation has become more accurate than GM's pre-production fluff.

Haha. It's not hard to follow because I am doubting. It's hard to follow because you jump around every other sentence.

 

[thePill]

Tell you what, my SS is produced, just waiting to be shipped. When I get it, I'll weigh it.

Too late then brother, they already have your money AND, Ford will probably have that SS answered.

By the time you find out your Camaro weighs 3800lbs and you don't have the skill to keep it on the track, a Gen 2 Coyote will be on its way, the GT will absorb some GT350 tricks and it will still be cheaper than the Camaro...

...while the Camaro still needs ATS-V brakes and 275's...

 

[ZaneWayne]

Too late then brother, they already have your money AND, Ford will probably have that SS answered.

By the time you find out your Camaro weighs 3800lbs and you don't have the skill to keep it on the track, a Gen 2 Coyote will be on its way, the GT will absorb some GT350 tricks and it will still be cheaper than the Camaro...

...while the Camaro still needs ATS-V brakes and 275's...

I don't buy cars based on specs, dear. So you are saying that a 2SS is 3,800 and a 1SS is 3,780-3,820?

 

[02gtnh]

Show me one magazine test that weighed a base car...

What if we had a 3736lbs GTPP weighed on here? Or any of the 3660-3700lbs GT's that exist? I see a base here weighed at 3700-ish...

Sorry, you are gonna get nailed again. You were 100% sure about the ATS-V being 3700lbs. You twisted and spun every car weighed... only to have Caddy submit to this fact.

You ignore the fact that the initial ATS-V's weighed and tested, from base to loaded was 3700-3762lbs... Now it's 3809-3860lbs...

So? Explain please? Because when the SS jumps to 3780-3820lbs, I want to quote you. How come you don't give Caddy shit for lying about 109lbs? It's a lowlife move if you ask me...

...then they wait almost a full model year to tell the truth :lol: and this is acceptable? What a hoot!!!

So, please give me details on how a 3700-3762lbs ATS-V gains 100lbs during the model year... please... I am dying to hear this... I can wait to bust the Camaro just like I did with the ATS-V. I had the details a loooooooong time ago and pretty much laid the whole thing out here... B-U-S-T-E-D :lol:

thePill is far from done... wait until the Csmaro starts limping around from heat :lol:

How is what Caddie did any different then what Ford did with there Mustang Euro weights? They said it was 3640lbs and you were positive it weighed that and kept telling people there the euro mustang had GT350 lighter parts that would make it to the US. Then later the number changes and now it shows there 3780lbs. I guess you forgot that.

 

[ZaneWayne]

Too late then brother, they already have your money AND, Ford will probably have that SS answered.

By the time you find out your Camaro weighs 3800lbs and you don't have the skill to keep it on the track, a Gen 2 Coyote will be on its way, the GT will absorb some GT350 tricks and it will still be cheaper than the Camaro...

...while the Camaro still needs ATS-V brakes and 275's...

By the way, you don't know my skill on the track. If I can keep my heavy arse V on the track, the SS shouldn't be bad haha. I plan on swapping tires anyways. So I'll be running 295s minimum.

 

[Aussie MustangGT]

I am very proud of this thread. It seems to be running along very nicely thanks to you all and in particular thanks to thePill.
Cheers, Ian.

 

[thePill]

How is what Caddie did any different then what Ford did with there Mustang Euro weights? They said it was 3640lbs and you were positive it weighed that and kept telling people there the euro mustang had GT350 lighter parts that would make it to the US. Then later the number changes and now it shows there 3780lbs. I guess you forgot that.

You just keep your mouth shut. I had enough of your misleading people here. You bring absolutely nothing to the conversation except a carcass to nail to the cross. You slimed around here and the whole time you were made a fool. Yes, a fool and Cadillac and GM did that to you.

So, I would just not come back here anymore... You were wrong, Caddy lied and you sucked it up...

 

[ZaneWayne]

You just keep your mouth shut. I had enough of your misleading people here. You bring absolutely nothing to the conversation except a carcass to nail to the cross. You slimed around here and the whole time you were made a fool. Yes, a fool and Cadillac and GM did that to you.

So, I would just not come back here anymore... You were wrong, Caddy lied and you sucked it up...

Haha. Calm down there, junior.

 

[02gtnh]

You just keep your mouth shut. I had enough of your misleading people here. You bring absolutely nothing to the conversation except a carcass to nail to the cross. You slimed around here and the whole time you were made a fool. Yes, a fool and Cadillac and GM did that to you.

So, I would just not come back here anymore... You were wrong, Caddy lied and you sucked it up...

Hit a sore spot. Can dish it out but sure can't take it.

 

[ZaneWayne]

Hit a sore spot. Can dish it out but sure can't take it.

He is angry that I am going to weigh my car and he won't have a leg to stand on. When it comes in around 3,750 it's going to really hurt his image.......(that was a joke btw)

 

[thePill]

Haha. Calm down there, junior.

Nah, I think we should just remove this clown. Anyone that is dedicated to spreading false information as fact should be eliminated here. So many move to eliminate thePill for speculation that isn't exactly on the money.

I put a lot of work into discrediting Cadillac. It took me awhile...

If it's a miscalculation as in, equipment was added and the weight changed, sure... But they advertised this AND, many fought it even though magazines started weighing them over 3800lbs. I had to sit through all the great numbers like 3730lbs and fully loaded at 3750... It was all bullish!t and so is this guy...

They sold cars all year advertised at 3700lbs... I wouldn't trust them... I surely wouldn't be waiting for a 3770lbs loaded 2SS :lol:

If you honestly believe that, it's fine... for now... but when Spring comes and they can't find an SS under 3800lbs... guess what??? thePill wins... and I think you know by now when I got you cornered. Why else would I be here :lol:

 

[ZaneWayne]

Anyone that is dedicated to spreading false information as fact should be eliminated here.

Pill! I think we agree on this portion Hahahaha.

It's not going to be spring before we find out. I'll find out by mid November.

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