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But he already won because the ATS-V is 3800lbs.
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So he was wrong on GT weight, Euro Mustang weights, GT350 weights on both, Camaro weights for all models, yet gets the ATS V right, so it's all hale thepill.
ZaneWayne
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I think he was being a smarta$$ haha.So he was wrong on GT weight, Euro Mustang weights, GT350 weights on both, Camaro weights for all models, yet gets the ATS V right, so it's all hale thepill.
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Noo I'm sooo serious. All hail planB.
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But thePill caught Cadillac lying straight to your faces. Many here put their reputation on the line for the sake of a 3700obs ATS-V.
Fact is, a 3809lbs car that is 109.3x62x184 is not going to be 110-140lbs lighter than a car on a 110.7x63.2x188.
The issue is... point to the areas where the SS lost 110lbs on the ATS-V... Go ahead, I'll wait...
I love how a manufacturer can just lie to you and get a pass. They just gained 109lbs over their advertised claims... Oh that's okay... we are gullible :lol:
Fact is, a 3809lbs car that is 109.3x62x184 is not going to be 110-140lbs lighter than a car on a 110.7x63.2x188.
The issue is... point to the areas where the SS lost 110lbs on the ATS-V... Go ahead, I'll wait...
I love how a manufacturer can just lie to you and get a pass. They just gained 109lbs over their advertised claims... Oh that's okay... we are gullible :lol:
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Whoa now, I based my GT weights on a CD4 platform AND, the EU weights WERE 3640lbs. I reported that because that is what it was... It was changed...So he was wrong on GT weight, Euro Mustang weights, GT350 weights on both, Camaro weights for all models, yet gets the ATS V right, so it's all hale thepill.
...just like the ATS-V and Camaro will need to do. We also found base GT's from 3660-3700lbs but none of that matters :lol:
One Camaro, from Motor Trend was 12lbs lighter...
I will be endlessly amused once these SS's end up over 3800lbs... JUST LIKE THE ATS-V... Didn't you ever stop to wonder? What if he's right again?
Then we get to witness the LT4 Camaro :lol:
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...but what happens when it becomes fact? So many were adamant about the Cadillac too. Is it so hard to believe that they will attempt this stunt again? Nobody caught on last time except thePill. What would happen then? What if it takes 1/2 a model year to find out? Can you point out how an SS weighs 130lbs less than an ATS-V? No... you most definitely cannot...
I'm not the one under the gun here, far from it. I brought a good majority of creditable info here... what have any of you brought? Hopes and wishes that didn't come true.
Do you still think an ATS-V weighs 3700lbs?
Was thePill crazy???
I'm afraid you are about to embrace the same situation, head on... and these numbers are already in danger of being trumped as is...
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As long as we see GM presenting false information for the sake of "Best in Class" or sales in general, we can assume it will continue...
...because people continuously fall for it...
Answer this? Did Caddy present false info and market it as fact?
...because people continuously fall for it...
Answer this? Did Caddy present false info and market it as fact?
02gtnh
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What's the weight of the GT, 3705lbs. Show me just one magazine where they come up with that weight, just one. All the mag GT reviews have been 3800+lbs. they all come in heavier then what manufactures say because they come with options. The 3 Camaro's that were weighed all were different. The lightest was just a 1ss with NPP and came 12lbs under. Is the NPP lighter?:shrug: the other was a 2ss with npp at 3726, only 40lbs over. The last was a fully loaded 2ss, with auto, npp, and sunroof at 3760. So that would mean the auto and sunroof add 34lbs which is about right. But like I said earlier, nobody cares, it's what it does on the road and track is what people remember. A 100 lbs +- no one will feel.
ZaneWayne
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Cadillac presented their estimates as final weights. Dick move on their part. Chevy has released curb weights. Magazines have backed them up. Not sure how you're gonna be right. But I'm sure you'll figure out a way to make sure you are. Anything to just man up and say you were wrong haha.
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It is a dick move and, you are gonna get the same d!ck again. 3700lbs wasn't an estimate, it was the number given to beat the Mustang...
Do you honestly believe the larger car weighs less? When did we abandon common sense for complete stupidity?
Better question, why would you trust such a company again?
I'm not gonna "man up" and just accept it. You and I both know that this will change... they need to sell cars or they are finished...
Man up? and get back to the 3685lbs SS? But then it magically gains 100lbs... then I just did a man up and became part of the problem.
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Show me one magazine test that weighed a base car...
What if we had a 3736lbs GTPP weighed on here? Or any of the 3660-3700lbs GT's that exist? I see a base here weighed at 3700-ish...
Sorry, you are gonna get nailed again. You were 100% sure about the ATS-V being 3700lbs. You twisted and spun every car weighed... only to have Caddy submit to this fact.
You ignore the fact that the initial ATS-V's weighed and tested, from base to loaded was 3700-3762lbs... Now it's 3809-3860lbs...
So? Explain please? Because when the SS jumps to 3780-3820lbs, I want to quote you. How come you don't give Caddy shit for lying about 109lbs? It's a lowlife move if you ask me...
...then they wait almost a full model year to tell the truth :lol: and this is acceptable? What a hoot!!!
So, please give me details on how a 3700-3762lbs ATS-V gains 100lbs during the model year... please... I am dying to hear this... I can wait to bust the Camaro just like I did with the ATS-V. I had the details a loooooooong time ago and pretty much laid the whole thing out here... B-U-S-T-E-D :lol:
thePill is far from done... wait until the Csmaro starts limping around from heat :lol:
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