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I do appreciate the fact that there are some pretty creative solutions to carrying guns your cars. I have not seen a lot of them. Myself, after being in the military and doing the job I do now, I would rather not carry one. They scare me a bit. I have a had a few pulled on me while working with some of my mental health clients. I will tell you, from my experience, the scariest ones are the normal people with them when they panic, not the criminals or mental health cases. Be safe out there guys. I don't want anyone to get hurt over something as silly as carrying a weapon.

Lets hope its made a lot harder to carry after what happened yesterday...
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Lets hope its made a lot harder to carry after what happened yesterday...

What are you talking about? Do you even know what's required to be able to carry concealed? Obviously not. It's not an easy permit to attain. (And that is what this thread is about). I promise you that whatever you are talking about, much more important laws where broken than any carry laws.
 
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Lets hope its made a lot harder to carry after what happened yesterday...
Yeah because that will stop the criminals from carring guns.
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You do realize that the dude has a criminal background and history which already makes it illegal for him to carry. Which means he was breaking the law before he broke the law. Yeah, more laws will fix that problem.

Idiocy. And popping into an old thread where people discussing something different and dropping vague references with your uneducated opinion with nothing to back it up? Idiocy.
 

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Lets hope its made a lot harder to carry after what happened yesterday...

Agree wholeheartedly.

The sad thing is after such incidents like this and mass killings, guns sales in the USA increase overnight. :crazy:

How is preventing law abiding citizens from carrying going to stop a criminal from shooting people? Nice logic!
 

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How is preventing law abiding citizens from carrying going to stop a criminal from shooting people? Nice logic!

There is no logic to people who actually think it'll work. They are working on emotion and knee jerk reaction.
 

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I always have my Diamondback DB9 in my front pocket, small enough to carry easily. I do have a Foxx in waistband holster on the way. looking forward to trying it out.

In car the weapon must not be visible from outside, by FL law. Even in the center console if you open the console to get your insurance or whatever while a cop stops you, you are technically violating the law. So the under dash carry wouldn't work unless it was way underneath.

I wouldn't mind some elegant way to carry my Kimber 1911 in my car, but it would have to be very quick to move in and out as I would never leave it in there while I am not in the car.

Maybe just put in a gun rack and have my Chinese paratrooper SKS with folding stock and bayonet affixed sitting up high and proud with a 50 round banana clip inserted, heh.
 

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I always have my Diamondback DB9 in my front pocket, small enough to carry easily. I do have a Foxx in waistband holster on the way. looking forward to trying it out.

In car the weapon must not be visible from outside, by FL law. Even in the center console if you open the console to get your insurance or whatever while a cop stops you, you are technically violating the law. So the under dash carry wouldn't work unless it was way underneath.

I wouldn't mind some elegant way to carry my Kimber 1911 in my car, but it would have to be very quick to move in and out as I would never leave it in there while I am not in the car.

Maybe just put in a gun rack and have my Chinese paratrooper SKS with folding stock and bayonet affixed sitting up high and proud with a 50 round banana clip inserted, heh.

It's nearly impossible to accidently see the steering column mounted gun from outside the car. An officer has never seen mine until I pointed it out to him. Gum Creek (one of the manufacturers posted and the ones I use) also has an option of an enclosed holster that works very well while assuring the gun is completely concealed. I have both kinds.

And yes I have used them to carry my Kimber 1911. :)
 

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Agree wholeheartedly.

The sad thing is after such incidents like this and mass killings, guns sales in the USA increase overnight. :crazy:
What's sad is before the bodies are even cold, people like matt020876 will dredge up a thread which has been inactive for months just to push his BS agenda. On a CAR forum, no less.

If you want to talk about what's dangerous, how about the fact this guy was a #BlackLivesMatter poster boy. Instead of trying to restrict the rights of law abiding people, try putting an end to this insane notion of victimhood instilled in minority communities by agitators like Jesse Jackson. We've been seeing their violence in a broad scale in Ferguson and across the country for the last year, and now we see it on a more personal level. What progress!
 

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Lets hope its made a lot harder to carry after what happened yesterday...
So it seems you've just been lurking this thread waiting for a tragedy to take place so you can use it for more of your anti-gun drivel. Took you less than 24 hours to use the tragic deaths of two young people to further your sorry ass agenda, your parents must be so proud.
 

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What's sad is before the bodies are even cold, people like matt020876 will dredge up a thread which has been inactive for months just to push his BS agenda. On a CAR forum, no less.
lol... Looks like we were typing the same thing at the same time Snoop.
 

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There is no logic to people who actually think it'll work. They are working on emotion and knee jerk reaction.
1996:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)

The Port Arthur massacre of 28–29 April 1996 was a killing spree in which 35 people were killed and 23 wounded. It occurred mainly at the historic Port Arthur in south-eastern Tasmania, Australia.

The Port Arthur massacre remains one of the deadliest shootings worldwide committed by a single person. Following the spree, the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, introduced strict gun ownership laws within the country and formulated the National Firearms Programme Implementation Act 1996, restricting the private ownership of semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic shotguns and pump-action shotguns as well as introducing uniform firearms licensing. It was implemented with bipartisan support by the commonwealth, states and territories.



Since these gun ownership laws there has not been a mass shooting in Australia. Almost 20 years.

Here's a list of Australia's mass crimes. Whilst there have been some other killings, the mass shooting of random people stops in 1996.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

We agree on many things but on this sole issue the average Australian and American hold diametrically opposed views.

Just as you are incensed that we would question your desire to carry or even own a gun (farmers etc not with standing), we are equally abhorrent of the idea.



On this one we have to agree to disagree.
 

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I've got cities in the U.S. With very strict gun laws that homicide rate by firearm show otherwise.

Either way, a car board isn't the place for it. People discussing how they carry in their car isn't the place for people for those for gun control to push their agenda. That's politics and not appreciated.

No different than those that get pissy when street racing comes up. Take it to your gun control board.

In other words, you ain't gotta like it, so butt out if you don't. Make everyone's enjoyment go up. Go start your own "where do you not keep your gun" thread.
 

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1996:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)

The Port Arthur massacre of 28–29 April 1996 was a killing spree in which 35 people were killed and 23 wounded. It occurred mainly at the historic Port Arthur in south-eastern Tasmania, Australia.

The Port Arthur massacre remains one of the deadliest shootings worldwide committed by a single person. Following the spree, the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, introduced strict gun ownership laws within the country and formulated the National Firearms Programme Implementation Act 1996, restricting the private ownership of semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic shotguns and pump-action shotguns as well as introducing uniform firearms licensing. It was implemented with bipartisan support by the commonwealth, states and territories.



Since these gun ownership laws there has not been a mass shooting in Australia. Almost 20 years.

Here's a list of Australia's mass crimes. Whilst there have been some other killings, the mass shooting of random people stops in 1996.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

We agree on many things but on this sole issue the average Australian and American hold diametrically opposed views.

Just as you are incensed that we would question your desire to carry or even own a gun (farmers etc not with standing), we are equally abhorrent of the idea.



On this one we have to agree to disagree.
The AIC concluded in 2003 that the firearm homicide and suicide rate had already started to decline before the 1996 reform act. In 2008 the University of Melbourne also concluded that "the buyback program had no significant effect on firearm suicide and homicide rates."

It's also impossible to compare a country to another that has less than a tenth the population with much different dynamics. My state alone has more people than the entire country of Australia. The dynamics of the inner cities and the political landscape is vastly different.

The truth is the murder rate in the US is declining overall. In NYC in 1990 there were over 2000 homicides. Last year, just over 300. Almost all major cities have been seeing a big decline in homicide rates. In most of the cities that have not decreased, or have increased, such as Chicago, St Louis, Baltimore etc one just needs to look at the politics and economic demographics of the areas affected. Stricter gun laws aren't helping them.
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