Cooled seats, bottoms only?

[Husker]

Mine worked fine, the last time I saw 80 degree weather.

Great hearing that it will work as promised.

I will be all over this, one of the few features I look forward to is the cooled seats...The salesman yesterday said he was gonna look into it, I bet he didn't do a thing.

I'm taking a mirror with me (Not Drug Related:lol to try and see what is under the seat as far as tubing.

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[Zombie]

Great hearing that it will work as promised.

I will be all over this, one of the few features I look forward to is the cooled seats...The salesman yesterday said he was gonna look into it, I bet he didn't do a thing.

I'm taking a mirror with me (Not Drug Related:lol to try and see what is under the seat as far as tubing.

Tony and I noticed it was more subtle than I expected. It took a bit to notice. Then It was "cooler".

It might not be cool enough for some but its subjective I guess. Ask me again in July.

 

[AdrianMAK]

My seat back cools also. Guess I was focusing on everything else and did not notice it until I looked for it. I thought it did not until I saw Zombie's scientific proof lol.

 

[GT]

Are the cooled seats actually cooled and not just vented? If so what is cooling them? A/C compressor?

 

[gzstang]

Per Ford shop manual....
Climate Controlled Seat Operation
The driver and passenger climate controlled seat buttons are selected from the FCIM or FDIM (touchscreen). The FDIM is mounted directly to the APIM. The climate controlled seat system functions independently of the vehicle's climate control system. When the climate controlled seat buttons are pressed on the touchscreen, the APIM sends the request to the GWM using the HS-CAN3. The GWM sends the message to the SCME over the MS-CAN.
When the climate controlled seat buttons are pressed on FCIM, the FCIM sends the request to the SCME using the MS-CAN.
The seat cushion and backrest are each equipped with a blower motor assembly. As cabin air is drawn through each blower motor, the blower motors heat or cool the air, which is then directed into the foam pad where it is distributed along the surface of the cushion and backrest of the seat. Once the system is activated, the SCME uses a set of flexible algorithms to control the heating/cooling modes and the blower speed dependant on the commanded climate controlled seat settings.
The SCME monitors seat cushion temperature while it supplies voltage and ground to both blower motors. The SCME also supplies a variable voltage signal to control the blower speed. Cabin air enters the blower through a filter attached to the blower motor housing. Heated or cooled air exits the blower motor and flows through the foam pad

 

[Husker]

Per Ford shop manual....
Climate Controlled Seat Operation
The driver and passenger climate controlled seat buttons are selected from the FCIM or FDIM (touchscreen). The FDIM is mounted directly to the APIM. The climate controlled seat system functions independently of the vehicle's climate control system. When the climate controlled seat buttons are pressed on the touchscreen, the APIM sends the request to the GWM using the HS-CAN3. The GWM sends the message to the SCME over the MS-CAN.
When the climate controlled seat buttons are pressed on FCIM, the FCIM sends the request to the SCME using the MS-CAN.
The seat cushion and backrest are each equipped with a blower motor assembly. As cabin air is drawn through each blower motor, the blower motors heat or cool the air, which is then directed into the foam pad where it is distributed along the surface of the cushion and backrest of the seat. Once the system is activated, the SCME uses a set of flexible algorithms to control the heating/cooling modes and the blower speed dependant on the commanded climate controlled seat settings.
The SCME monitors seat cushion temperature while it supplies voltage and ground to both blower motors. The SCME also supplies a variable voltage signal to control the blower speed. Cabin air enters the blower through a filter attached to the blower motor housing. Heated or cooled air exits the blower motor and flows through the foam pad

Not sure I understand, does this mean you need to program thru the touch-screen to make both blower motors work in the seat & seat back?

 

[GT]

Wow! So does it actually cool the air? It seems to say that and also heat it but not sure why you would heat it.

 

[Bryman]

That's great, so its more than just a fan blowing in the seat. Looking forward to being chilled in my AC seat. ;)

 

[gzstang]

Husker one input from the driver commands the module then the module determines both blowers from there based on the thermostats in each as I understand... I will dive into the manual a little later to check. Also those automatic cars with remote start also have protocal which changes as well in different senerios...

 

[Keyser_Soze]

I was in one today and only the seat bottoms were cooled. Seatback was definitely not cooling on the GT PP in Omaha. I questioned the salesman about it he said he was in the car for about 15 minutes and never noticed the seatback working as well. When I went on the test drive my ass was freezing but the seatback was hot either something was wrong or the cooling totally sucks on the seat back.

When we return to the dealership I got out of the car and held my hand on the seat back and all I felt was the heat from my back that was still in it feeling the seat definitely cold.

If these are anything similar to the ones in my Explorer, and I'd assume they're almost identical sans the seat shape, you definitely don't feel it on your back, especially in the summer. Seeing people say the same about the Mustang seat makes me think they're similar as well. Keester yes, but it takes a few minutes to really get it going. I can concur with swamp back in those suit-in-the-summer situations. It is also not an 'ahhhh, nice and cold' feeling, but rather it makes the seat the temperature of the cabin air or a little cooler. It's definitely not like having an A/C vent pointed at your sphincter. I still enjoy this feature and use it often, but it's not exactly revelatory.

Guys, its both tops and bottoms.

I just went out and checked again. You can even hear the air blowing in the top of the seats through the holes.

I ran a few temp checks. Nothing majorly scientific, but it is cooling both surfaces on my car.

Its pretty mild here, but it did drop the temp quit a bit.

Pics in order:

1. Seat bottom before
2. Seat back before
3. Seat setting
4. Seat bottom after
5. Seat back after

This is actually a bad test with no butt in it - the seat back and seat cushion are in such close proximity that any air moving past one to cool it would move past the other and cool it. A better test would be to sit down in it, operate it for 10 minutes, then immediately get up and shoot both surfaces.



Obviously the Ford shop manual states that both back and butt are cooled, but in my experience it's 90% butt and 10% back. Also, even the shop manual says 'blower motor' and 'cooled', but given that it operates independently of the climate control system, I would say it's just pushing cabin air rather than actual A/C, no? Not hating, just trying to get details. I'm buying the feature either way.

 

[Number971]

A better test would be to sit down in it, operate it for 10 minutes, then immediately get up and shoot both surfaces.

I also was wondering what the results would be after driving the car for 10 minutes.

Furthermore, there is a big difference between surface temperature and amount of heat moved (or removed). Zombie's test shows virtually the same surface temps of the bottom and back. His review stated (Zombie, correct me if I'm mis-quoting you) that the bottom was like sitting on a cold slab, but there wasn't much cooling sensation in the back (also stated by several others). While the seat back cooling system can bring the temperature down, it doesn't seem to have the necessary capacity to remove enough heat once a body is in the seat.

Infiniti and Jeep has spoiled me. My FX35 and my wife's Grand Cherokee seats keeps me cool even on the hottest New Orleans days. The Jeep seats are freakin' ice blocks!

 

[Husker]

Furthermore, there is a big difference between surface temperature and amount of heat moved (or removed). Zombie's test shows virtually the same surface temps of the bottom and back. His review stated (Zombie, correct me if I'm mis-quoting you) that the bottom was like sitting on a cold slab, but there wasn't much cooling sensation in the back (also stated by several others). While the seat back cooling system can bring the temperature down, it doesn't seem to have the necessary capacity to remove enough heat once a body is in the seat.

I agree with Zombie

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